This means that the program in question does not provide the information.
If the information is not provided there is no way for window-eyes to tell
you what you want to know.  
Like I said this information can be had from word using the status line. 

-----Original Message-----
From: M and L Dorn [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 3:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: more control in verbosity:

When in the email message, the control-insert-b command says vertical 0 of 
1444.  In Notepad with a 7-line document, it says vertical 0 of 7.  I can 
assume the 1444 could have been the number of lines, but it does not 
indicate where in the document the cursor is, which is really the info I 
want.  The 0 in either case did not change with the cursor's movement.

TTFN,
Marilyn
At 12:44 PM 1/12/2009, you wrote:
>To read a scroll bar
>You would use this hot key.
>Read_Progress_Or_Scrollbar = Control-Insert-b
>The status bar in Microsoft word is configurable to tell you line page etc.
>you can even have it give you a word count.
>The index reading first is a good idea for those people who would like
that.
>I would hate it myself but this shows my point that we need more control
>over what is read.  How it is read so forth..
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: M and L Dorn [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:25 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: more control in verbosity:
>
>The option for index that I'd like to have is to have it spoken first and
>then the file info.  When in a list of files and folders in a folder, it
>has to read the entire line of filename, size, type, date, time, and more
>depending on the file type, before it tells the index item number.  I'd
>like the index number given first so I won't have to wait for all that to
>find out where I am.  If that seems like to much chatter when you don't
>want it, perhaps there's a keystroke that can be assigned to give the index
>on demand.
>
>Also, is it possible to have a sort of progress indicator as to how far
>into a file we are when reading.  It would need to be a hot key like
>reading a progress bar so that it did not speak while reading through a
>document.  I just want some way to find out if I'm getting close to the end
>or barely into a document and should save the finishing of it until
>later.  I believe there is a visual indicator of this position in scroll
>bars in Word and the like, but I don't have anything like this in Notepad
>or Wordpad or email messages.  I actually wondered about this recently when
>reading the text displayed when upgrading WE.  It was a huge file.  If I'd
>known how long it was going to take me to read it, I'd have used the Later
>button.
>
>I have not even tried to get into scripts yet, but maybe a script can be
>written to basically performa a macro to bring up the WE control panel,
>choose a menu option or dialog, and select a particular option.  I'm not
>sure if scripts can be made to work like a macro; but, if they can, then
>another would need to be made to reverse the selection.  I guess this would
>need a hot key to run the script.  I don't know if this works or not.  Just
>a thought from a pre-novice WE scriptor.
>
>Thanks!
>Marilyn
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