Well, I have read your two posts and your words make your lips sound like a
flapping flat tire. Not sure what your expertise is but one thing I know is
that you do not have any more of an investment in GW Micro than anyone else
on this list so why do you think you are so special as to feel an
entitlement. The software business is not an easy one and I feel you and a
few others on this list have no idea of how difficult things can be in this
bad economic time. And to your point about 32 bit verses 64 bit and what GW
micro did or didn't do. Gw Micro realized that many of its users didn't
have, and probably wouldn't have, 64 hardware when they had to make a
decision about which way to go. They also realize like many other software
vendors, that you can't just break the whole user base that you have built.
Even Microsoft had to make the same decision when they decided to release
Vista. And, just in case you don't know, and I would bet you don't, even
Sun Microsystems did not have 64 bit Java when We was released. It has only
been abailble for a couple of months. And, for your assertion that 64 bit
software runs so much faster than 32 bit software, I can tell you that the
machine on which i am writing is a 32 bit machine and my brother-in-law has
one almost exactly like this one but with the 64 bit OS and 4 verses 2 GB,
and I can tel you that you can't tell the difference for most applications.
Most applications that you run are probably not compute bound. I worked in
the computer business for over 32 years and I would bet you again that you
have no idea of what a compute bound program is and I can further tell you
without knowing anything else about your blow away system that there is
nothing on it or even my system that is a compute bound application. So,
I would suggest that you change that flapping tire and if you don't
understand me, I'l be more clear, button your lip unless you know what you
are talking about.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Belle" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Window eyes and 64bit systems
Whoops, got a cheer-leader mad, sorry.
Nope, not a programmer, never said I was, what I meant to say was that
porting from xp to 32 bit vista was easier than porting to 64 bit so
that's why gwmicro decided to do the easy code instead of tackling 64 bit,
you know the immediate gratification thing.
But the easy path isn't always the best one because 64 bit is gonna be a
much bigger player than 32 bit vista or windows 7 and we're seeing that
now.
I just looked at what I wrote, and I can maybe see why you might have
gotten that confused,
but taking things in context and what I wrote afterwords, it seems pretty
clear to me what I was saying.
Maybe that's a limitation of the programming mind 'grin'.
But no offense intended, all the cheer-leaders can sit down, and if it
weren't for people like me pushing the envelope, and expecting the highest
for our hard-earned money, these guys would get fat and lazy and really
get behind.
I have to keep up to be competitive in my field of expertise, so I expect
the best tools for the job.
As long as I've got money invested in gwmicro, I have a right to expect
the best, just as my clients I do work for have the right to expect the
best from me and believe me, they do, they keep me on my toes.
So, my email was a compliment to the company in fact,
maybe not a cheer-leader style, because the way it goes on these lists is
that you tote the party line and don't say anything bad and then
appologize when you do ask for something or mention something that needs
to be done, or that should have been done.
I won't do that, I tell it like it is.
I'll do it respectfully, and some times I might pull a chain or be a
little cheeky, but that's just how I am, people that don't like my posts
can hit the delete key 'grin'.
I know this is hard work but if your going to be the best and say your the
best, then deliver the best.
It doesn't matter now, we've got 64 bit.
I just think in retrospect that gwmicro would have served themselves
better if 64 bit had been a priority earlier rather than 32 bit vista.
But yes, I do indeed understand that that would have been the harder thing
to do.
Regards.
At 07:01 PM 7/30/2009, you wrote:
A small task to port a screen reader from 32 bit to 64 bit? Hmmm, Chris,
what programming expertise do you have to warrant such a statement?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Window eyes and 64bit systems
Actually, our guys came through and weren't lagging too far behind the
competition on this one, makes me proud.
We indeed have 64 bit.
I mentioned to the fine folks about some time ago, or some such when
vista 32 had just come out and that was probably the easy code to do.
I said 64 bit was gonna be the big thing, and they were starting to
become more and more on systems even then.
I got spanked for mentioning such a thing 'grin',
because gw were patting themselves on the back for vista 32 release,
but serious attention could and should have been implemented then because
some of us could see which way the pig was running.
And sure enough, 64 bit is taking over now and how nice if we'd been
first because vista 32 isn't that big a deal and I believe in my heart
that 64 bit flavor of vista, and most likely 64 bit windows 7 will be the
winner like xp is.
Vista 32 was a big flop in the industry and everybody knows it.
Hmmm, let's see 4 gig architectural limit, but more over-head for the os
equals less memory for the programs, equals doggy performance.
So atleast now because I don't have a 64 bit version of jaws, if I want
to slap 64 bit sonar on this fine dual core machine and not cripple it
with a 32 bit os, and really get in to high gear, even with no scripts
and such, I might have some chance at access because all the versions of
sonar since version 5 will do 64 bit.
So thanks guys for not making me wait too long 'grin'.
At 05:32 PM 7/30/2009, you wrote:
Hi,
Does WE support 64 bit OS yet? I'm asking because I placed a order on
Monday for a new desktop system from Dell and I just found out that it's
a
64 bit system. I really hope it is one because I haven't been around in
a
while.
Otis
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