Houdy, As someone who has taught, and does tech support for a living I have to agree. It's like trying to be a synthesizer player but only having 2 of your fingers on one hand and you're attempting to play comps by cats like herbie hancock and chick corea. Not gonna get it done. I use apps that work in the same manner as windows mail at home all the time, but wouldn't recommend them to anyone because of this lack of accessibility. Accessibility by only having mouse use is not only a cop out, but pardon my english half ass! The jobs far from done.
Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tanner" <[email protected]> To: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]>; "'net bat'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: Re: Windows live mail You know I really get tired of hearing this statement. I really would like you and the others with this attitude go on a job and prove to me that you can do a job with an application that you call accessible when the only way you can use it is with mouse movements and clicks. Let's face it, it is a cop out to keep from making an application accessible. If it isn't usable then quit this cop out of excusing it away and not fixing it. Stop helping sighted folks trying to force us to use a mouse when they and you know it really doesn't work! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]> To: "'net bat'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:18 AM Subject: RE: Windows live mail > No it is accessibility maybe not user friendly but if something can be > found > with the mouse using the mouse keys it is accessible. Also windows live > mail works with msaa and so scripts can be created as I started to do at > one > time to find your way through the trees and list. So this program is > accessible and works fine. > > Jim Grimsby Junior. > Please feel free to contact me at anytime using one of the below methods. > Skype: Jim.Grimsby 909-498-4711. > E-mail: [email protected] > Windows live messenger: [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: net bat [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:39 PM > To: GW INFO > Subject: Re: Windows live mail > > and how did you get it to work when gw micro also said they will not > support > > it. > you don't know where you are in the list of mail boxes without haveing to > use the mouse. the same if you want to move a message to another folder. > you > > don't know where you are without useing the mouse. this is not > accessability > > haveing to fiddly fart around all day with the mouse trying to find the > mailbox you want to go to. > no thanks. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]> > To: "'nick danger'" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:18 PM > Subject: RE: Windows live mail > > >> Hi windows live mail works fine both with window-eyes 7.1 and jaws 10. >> >> Not sure why everyone is saying it doesn't work. >> >> As for this shark screen reader never used it so I have no idea. I think >> we >> need to start calling window-eyes the bifocals just to be fair here. >> >> Jim Grimsby Junior. >> >> Please feel free to contact me at anytime using one of the below methods. >> >> Skype: Jim.Grimsby 909-498-4711. >> >> E-mail: [email protected] >> >> Windows live messenger: [email protected] >> >> >> >> From: nick danger [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:03 PM >> To: Jeff Bishop >> Cc: window eyes >> Subject: Re: Windows live mail >> >> >> >> Houdy, >> >> >> >> Better to use thunderbird rather than windows mail if you're running >> window-eyes 7. Some say that windows mail works ok using the shark but I >> can't verify that personally. >> >> >> >> Tony >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Jeff Bishop <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> To: Walter Cone <mailto:[email protected]> ; GW Info List >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:42 PM >> >> Subject: Re: Windows live mail >> >> >> >> The issues with Windows Live Mail are not Window-Eyes issues but general >> issues with the application itself. It has very poor keyboard handling in >> it. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Walter Cone <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> To: GW Info List <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:32 PM >> >> Subject: Windows live mail >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Are we able to use Windows Live mail with window eyes 7.1? 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