We really have come a long way with speech. I started using speech with the Apple II e and the Echo II speech synthesizer. Here is a bit of trivia for you. With the Echo II on the Apple II e computer, how would this be pronounced as a word? G h o t i Of course our modern speech says Ghoti What do you think the Echo II said? Jeff Weiss
-----Original Message----- From: rs_denis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:37 AM To: GW Info List Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date I wonder if the degree that one notices and is bothered by the mis-pronunciations is not a reflection of how long one has used speech and how many different forms of speech one has had to use over the year. I find that my ear and/or brain compensate for things like the pronunciation of October and I would have never noticed it if it weren't brought to my attention. Even now, I hear the correct pronunciation unless I'm listening for the flaw. I started hearing artificial speech back when votrax and echo were in common use. I'm all in favor of having the best speech possible, but at some point the errors may cost more to fix than they are worth. I find that no matter which synthesizer I'm using, there are things that are done very well and things that are not. I even had one form of speech that was great for reading news articles but would drive me up a wall when reading a story. Anyway, back to where I started, I wonder if one doesn't become more desensitized to mis-pronunciations the more one has to deal with them. RD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]> To: "Keith Gillard" <[email protected]>; "Gary King" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date > Actually, I guess it is ultimately in the ear of the listener, but when I > press the time button, I hear the time followed by: > > Octoeboo twentieth, two thousand nine > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Gillard" <[email protected]> > To: "Gary King" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:15 PM > Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date > > >> Yes!today is Ocobu 20th 2000&9. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary King" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date >> >> >> "Being looked into" just means that the issues have been passed along to >> HIMS. Hopefully, the fixes will make it into the next firmware update. >> I >> will wait for improved speech before reading any more books in RTF >> format. >> Trying to determine what a word actually is by reading through it by >> character is somewhat time consuming with the BookSense. If it weren't >> for >> context, I might think that Octobu was a species of octopus or a new >> James >> Bond character. >> >> Gary King >> [email protected] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:59 AM >> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date >> >> >>> Raul has already said the pronunciation issues >>> are >>> being looked into. >>> >>> At 08:41 PM 10/19/2009 -0500, you wrote: >>>>Sandy, >>>>Yes, the speech problems are probably fixable, but the questions are: >>>>who >>>>can fix them, and when will they be fixed? Can HIMS fix the TTS speech >>>>rules that are not working correctly, or will Neospeech need to do the >>>>job? Problems with the BookSense already have to go from the users to GW >>>>Micro and then to HIMS. If problems with mispronunciations then have to >>>>be referred from HIMS to Neospeech, it will probably take longer to get >>>>them fixed. >>>> >>>>Does anyone know for certain what platform the BookSense runs on? I >>>>noticed that Neospeech has versions for several different platforms. >>>> >>>>Gary King >>>>[email protected] >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]> >>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:11 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date >>>> >>>> >>>>>This is a known mispronunciation issue. There are a bunch. But unlike >>>>>Doubletalk and the Victor Reader Stream speech, this is fixable. >>>>> >>>>>At 09:02 AM 10/19/2009 -0600, you wrote: >>>>>>According to my XT its: >>>>>>octobu 19, 2000&9 >>>>>> >>>>>>Is this a spelling mistake, tts error or, is it due to windows >>>>>>limitations >>>>>>on file name sizing? >>>>>> >>>>>>KG. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>>sender >>>>>>only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message >>>>>>is >>>>>>related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending >>>>>>your >>>>>>message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive >>>>>>it. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>>>>>[email protected] and include leave gw-booksense in the body of the >>>>>>message. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sandy Licht >>>>>Turn right, then go straight! >>>>> >>>>> Jeremiah 29:11-14 (Amplified Bible) >>>>> >>>>>11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the Lord, >>>>>thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil, to give you >>>>>hope in your final outcome. >>>>> >>>>> 12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to Me, >>>>> and >>>>> I will hear and heed you. >>>>> >>>>> 13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a vital >>>>> necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.(A) >>>>> >>>>> 14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release you >>>>> from >>>>> captivity and gather you from all the nations and all the places to >>>>> which I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back to >>>>> the >>>>> place from which I caused you to be carried away captive. >>>>> >>>>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>sender >>>>>only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message >>>>>is >>>>>related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your >>>>>message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>>>> >>>>>If you wish to unsubscribe from this list, send a message to >>>>>[email protected] and include leave gw-booksense in the body of the >>>>>message. >>>> >>>>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >>>>only. 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