As can be seen from the subject line, the original message of this thread
was supposed to go the BookSense list. Just another unfortunate result of
the backward way GW Micro has set up its lists. Even if you go to the
trouble to change the address, you need to be careful that it completes
correctly in the To field.
As for speech synthesizers, we really have come a long way. However, since
the synthesizers with human-sounding speech sound so natural most of the
time, it really stands out when they make an error. The old synthesizers
sounded so robotic that pronunciation errors were just part of the fun.
Then we got exception dictionaries to take care of those errors that we just
couldn't tolerate any longer.
Gary King
[email protected]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Weiss" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: [GW-Booksense] XT date
We really have come a long way with speech.
I started using speech with the Apple II e and the Echo II speech
synthesizer.
Here is a bit of trivia for you.
With the Echo II on the Apple II e computer, how would this be
pronounced as a word?
G h o t i
Of course our modern speech says
Ghoti
What do you think the Echo II said?
Jeff Weiss
-----Original Message-----
From: rs_denis [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:37 AM
To: GW Info List
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date
I wonder if the degree that one notices and is bothered by the
mis-pronunciations is not a reflection of how long one has used speech
and
how many different forms of speech one has had to use over the year. I
find
that my ear and/or brain compensate for things like the pronunciation of
October and I would have never noticed it if it weren't brought to my
attention. Even now, I hear the correct pronunciation unless I'm
listening
for the flaw. I started hearing artificial speech back when votrax and
echo
were in common use.
I'm all in favor of having the best speech possible, but at some point
the
errors may cost more to fix than they are worth. I find that no matter
which synthesizer I'm using, there are things that are done very well
and
things that are not. I even had one form of speech that was great for
reading news articles but would drive me up a wall when reading a story.
Anyway, back to where I started, I wonder if one doesn't become more
desensitized to mis-pronunciations the more one has to deal with them.
RD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: "Keith Gillard" <[email protected]>; "Gary King"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date
Actually, I guess it is ultimately in the ear of the listener, but
when I
press the time button, I hear the time followed by:
Octoeboo twentieth, two thousand nine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Gillard" <[email protected]>
To: "Gary King" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date
Yes!today is Ocobu 20th 2000&9.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date
"Being looked into" just means that the issues have been passed along
to
HIMS. Hopefully, the fixes will make it into the next firmware
update.
I
will wait for improved speech before reading any more books in RTF
format.
Trying to determine what a word actually is by reading through it by
character is somewhat time consuming with the BookSense. If it
weren't
for
context, I might think that Octobu was a species of octopus or a new
James
Bond character.
Gary King
[email protected]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date
Raul has already said the pronunciation
issues
are
being looked into.
At 08:41 PM 10/19/2009 -0500, you wrote:
Sandy,
Yes, the speech problems are probably fixable, but the questions
are:
who
can fix them, and when will they be fixed? Can HIMS fix the TTS
speech
rules that are not working correctly, or will Neospeech need to do
the
job? Problems with the BookSense already have to go from the users
to GW
Micro and then to HIMS. If problems with mispronunciations then
have to
be referred from HIMS to Neospeech, it will probably take longer to
get
them fixed.
Does anyone know for certain what platform the BookSense runs on? I
noticed that Neospeech has versions for several different platforms.
Gary King
[email protected]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] XT date
This is a known mispronunciation issue. There are a bunch. But
unlike
Doubletalk and the Victor Reader Stream speech, this is fixable.
At 09:02 AM 10/19/2009 -0600, you wrote:
According to my XT its:
octobu 19, 2000&9
Is this a spelling mistake, tts error or, is it due to windows
limitations
on file name sizing?
KG.
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