Exactly let me put it this way.  Gw micro has limited resources and so when
I see new ideas etc I want to make sure I understand why people feel they
are needed.  That is true when we are talking about dooplacating a feature
already there.  I did not intend to affend and I am sorry if I did so.  The
views I expressed were my own as I understood the situation at the time.  


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wolfe [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: A suggestion for the Window-Eyes program Sub menu

I'll voice my final opinion about this matter to the list, and the
support staff. If you have what works for you that is great right?
Well, there are other people that wold prefer to have an option of a
removal istallation from all programs. This should be relatively
speaking little or no extra work in future editions of window-eyes. In
fact, it would be nice. More or less Jim and people of his elk are
more ddvanced window-eyes than your typical user. This means they fin
that why have extra when you have enough as is. Then, the novice users
are detered because they don't know all of those extra keyboard
shortcuts. However, it's good all round to do this measure to
encourage new window-eyes users at first. No harm no foul in my
opinion. Don't take anything personally guys come on we are all apart
of the same team. We have enough in life to divide us up

On 1/19/10, Keith Hinton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ed has a point. To suggest that he doesn't is almost like telling me
> that my suggestion is worthless.
> And when I was discussing this, I was not refering to an emergency
> removal tool for Window-Eyes. I was refering to a shortcut labled
> something like "Uninstall Window-Eyes" that would then launch the
> uninstalation process. I too, agree that the emergency removal tool
> should only be used for such access, just an emergency situation.
> That's my belief, personally.
> Jim: continueing on at this point, I think hearing from GW Micro staff
> personally on this suggestion being worthless would be a much better
> idea.
> Only make a statement about my suggestion when you have thought it
> through properly. You are obviously not considering every point
> possible and only consider it as "pointless."
> Thanks
>
>
> On 1/17/10, Ed Marquette <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You would think that's the case; however, I have a few applications that
>> have their own install/uninstall routines, and I've successfully been
>> able to install and uninstall.  This suggests that the rights limitation
>> is just to the Add/Remove screen, not add/remove functionality.
>> Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
>>> Yes but if you don't have access to this then it is probable  that you
>>> will
>>> not have the rights to install and remove programs and so you will need
>>> to
>>> get your admen department to do this for you any way.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ed Marquette [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:12 AM
>>> To: Jim Grimsby JR.
>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: A suggestion for the Window-Eyes program Sub menu
>>>
>>> I think the suggestion has more merit than one might think.  This is
>>> because not all users have access to the Add/Remove feature of Windows.
>>> Those who work in large organizations with serious security concerns
>>> (sometimes over-concerned) do not have access to Add/Remove.  That
>>> feature is available only to certain members of IS with fairly high
>>> security rights.
>>> I cannot tell you how many times I've been frustrated by not having
>>> access to Add/Remove.  I concede that this is perhaps more a problem of
>>> administration within my own organization, but that's a solid brick
wall.
>>> At least it is a factor which makes the suggestion worth considering.
>>>
>>> Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not much point.  First you can do this from add remove programs so it
is
>>>> standard.  Putting the er tool there would not do any good because once
>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>> used the uninstall feature and it did not go right the start menu
>>>> programs
>>>> section would already be removed.  So as I said not much point.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Keith Hinton [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:35 AM
>>>> To: Aaron Smith; Doug
>>>> Cc: gw-info
>>>> Subject: A suggestion for the Window-Eyes program Sub menu
>>>>
>>>> I had just one simpol suggestion for the Window-Eyes program menu. The
>>>> suggestion is to include an uninstaller option inside the Window-Eyes
>>>> sub menu. Another idea would be to include the Window-Eyes removal
>>>> utility not on ly on the cD, but to also include it as an  option of
>>>> the Window-Eyes program itself.
>>>> What do the rest of you think? I thought I'd see what the main
>>>> Widnow-Eyes developers thought of this suggestion.
>>>> Thanks much, --Keith
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