And when is that out then, grins.

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On 28/01/2010 16:13, net bat wrote:
wait until the next version. grin. the  next version is suppose to have
access to that header context menu. and the headers supposedly will only
speak the heders that are really on the screen.
and that graphic is not hit or miss. once you give the graphic
description with the graphic dictionary it is easy to find with the
mouse buy useing the mouse clip keys or useing the w e find command to
search for the name of the graphic. then you can click on it. once you
turn on the status header it will tell you if a message has been red or
not. you can also set it in the options pull down to display the
messages in its own window instead of in a tab. then you can close the
window with the escape key like outlook express has.
its not documented but you can still use control m or f5 to retreve
messages like o e does.
there is a wizard of some kind that w e does not speak but other then
this wizard i have got it working with vista and windows 7 to the point
that i am ready to move over entirily to windows 7.
it doesn't look like eset antivirus supports t bird. but t bird does
have an option to allow a antivirus to quarinteen messages.
there is no evidence that it is scanning the messages.
there is no eset messages at the bottom of the messages to say they have
been scanned, nothing in the context menu for adding a message to the
eset black list.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam bushman"
<[email protected]>
To: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>; "GW Info Discussion List"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: reordering the Thunderbird message columns


Hi Raul,

I mentioned that this program was not that speech friendly.
You said that you think that it is.
After I see all this hopeing to get on the right spots and maybe if
you click hear the menu will come up?

I don't mean to start an issue here but, after all the messages with
people not evening able to bring up menus and with the hit and miss
keystrokes to do this I just wonder.
Any hope of better access to this app?
We all do need an email solution.
Thanks
Sam

----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
To: "GW Info Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: reordering the Thunderbird message columns


Hi. Try this.

On the line with the message header titles, press numpad-6 until you
reach the last character of that line. Then control-shift-numpad-6
until you reach the end of the screen. Now, control-shift-numpad-4
once and left click. See if it brings up the menu which you need.

Good luck.

On 1/27/2010 11:26 PM, Ed Marquette wrote:
Hello:
I'm only reporting my experience. by using control plus shift plus
numpad 6, moving by pixel, no, repeat no, graphics are detected to the
right of the last header title ("Date" in my case). None. Not a single
one. Even if one moves 20 times or to the edge of the screen such that
Window-Eyes goes "bong," "bong," "bong!" The mouse just won't go any
further.
Instead, "context menu open" and "window close" is heard at least 3
times. I tried the automatic labeling of graphics to see if Window-Eyes
was saying that instead of graphic.
If one moves by clip, Window-Eyes says "graphic," but as others have
reported, left clicking does nothing, absolutely nothing.
By following it with up and down arrow keys, one hears the message
subjects, not a list of header options.
This just does not WORK!
As I am typing this, I'm thinking I should use the move by pixel and
left click on the "Context Menu Open" message since Window-Eyes is
probably confusing this with a graphic -- at least in pixel movement
mode.

Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hi. You have to find the graphic on the same line as the header names
for the columns. it's the the almost extreme right edge of the screen
on that line. This is why you have to find the last character of the
last word on that line and then control-shift-numpad-6 to move to the
graphic since you can't do it by clip.

Good luck.

On 1/26/2010 7:33 PM, Neville wrote:
Hi Raul,
Using TB 3.0.1 and WE 7.11.

I take it that you are referring to the list of messages when the
message is closed.

Although the grapphic to the right of the last character can be
located,
it can not be opened by left clicking. It can be opened by right
clicking but this menu is mainly to do with messages. This is the
only
graphic to the right of the text.

Anything else that can be tried in order to locate the correct
graphic?

Cherrs
Neville.



On 26/01/2010 5:18 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Hello all. Here is how to order the Thunderbird message columns
the way
you want. Keep this message for the future and it will help you.
Please
note that it sounds difficult, but is not after you do this a few
times.
The message status is read through msaa, so there are no graphics to
label.

Find the line with the headers with the mouse pointer. This
usually has
subject, date, from or something similar. Right arrow with numpad
6 to
the end of the line, or rather the last character of the line. Now
control-shift-numpad-6 to move by pixels to the end of the line,
eventually you will hear WE say graphic, when you do, left click
there.
Now a menu opens up where you can use regular up/down arrows to
choose
which items you want shown. I choose message status, priority, and
attachment. So press enter on the first one you want, and then left
click again to open that menu once more. As long as you don't
move your
mouse, you can just left click each time you want to open the
menu to
add something new.

Once you have added the ones you want, read the current mouse
line with
numpad-5 and you will see that in addition to subject, date, and
sender,
you will see the new ones you added. Now to order those headers
in the
way you want, for example, I have status first then priority, then
subject. What you should do is mouse arrow to the one you want to
move,
press insert-numpad-period and Window-Eyes will say mark. Now
move to
the left of this line and you may be on subject. When you are on the
first header, press insert-numpad-period again and Window-Eyes
will ask
you if you want to mark or drop. Choose Drop and the item you
marked to
move will drop in its place. So now you have just reordered a
column.
Keep repeating this procedure until the columns are in the way
you want
and as you up/down arrow in your message list, if you have status
set
first as you arrow, you will hear things like, read, replied to,
new,
unread, ETC.

I can't really give further information on this, but if I have time,
I'll do an audio demonstration on Thunderbird and it will help those
who
still need it. It should anyway.

Hope this helps.


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