hi 
sorry   I don't see the need for this.  all the kid has to do is open the place 
marker dialog.  hit alt+v to remove all set the new marker as she needs it away 
she goes.  she can also learn how to set more then one marker if she needs it.  
if you only need one then remove all the others set the new one and away you 
go.  what would be the point of adding a new feature to do what you can do 
already?  
I can understand not wanting to confuse the girl so explain pressing alt+v is 
like taking the book mark out and now we use the dialog to put the marker in 
where we want it.  
then after she understands this be show her the power of having more then one.  
when she grasps this we then show her how to edit the place markers verses 
removing it.  
you are going to have to show her these things as a part of basic word 
processing at some point anyway.  

hth 



From: Martin Thomas Schrott 
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 5:31 AM
To: [email protected] ; erik burggraaf 
Cc: jim grimsby Jr. ; gw-info 
Subject: Re: Place markers.


Aaron,

but wouldn't it really be possible to add some basic placemarker functionality, 
that could be used by beginners or as mentioned by children? 
Just an additional marker, that only can exist once and is automatically 
removed from the old position when the marker is set again? 

This would allow children to just set the marker where they want without 
editing or removing something.

Not as a replacement just as an additional marker?

Or isn't such a scenario possible?

(just my thoughts)
cheers,
Martin

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aaron Smith 
  To: erik burggraaf 
  Cc: jim grimsby Jr. ; gw-info 
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Place markers.


  Mike responded to this thread yesterday with the answer. Simple select an 
existing placemarker from your list of placemarkers. Once you do that, the 
information for that placemarker is available for editing, just like you were 
creating a new one. This functionality has been in place since the inception of 
placemarkers.

  Aaron

  On 5/28/2010 8:07 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: 
    You are right.  That was basicly my question to the list was, "isn't there 
an easy way to do this". 


    I've read that section of the manual at least several times and it hasn't 
told me what I wanted.


    OK, here's a request for the next release of window-eyes.  Can we please 
have a new key stroke to quickly update a place marker?


    Thanks,


    Erik Burggraaf
    Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto.  I'll be at 
the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating for 
the rest of the day.
    http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
    888-255-5194


    On 2010-05-27, at 10:11 PM, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:


      hi if you review the section of the manual it will show how to edit the 
place marker.  I think you will find that in the ccase you talking about 
removing and adding a new one is going to be easyer but to each his own.  

       
      From: erik burggraaf 
      Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:01 AM
      To: jim grimsby Jr. 
      Cc: gw-info 
      Subject: Re: Place markers.


      But that's just it.  You don't take one marker out of a book and put a 
new one in.  You just move the marker you have already from where you picked 
up, to where you left off. 


      The same should be true of window-eyes place markers.  My client is 8.  
She's not really interested in the mechanics of place marking.  I can teach her 
what the various options do, but she isn't going to fool around with a two step 
process of emersion into a dialog box just to mark her place in a book.


      There has to be a better way.


      Erik Burggraafhttp://www.erik-burggraaf.com
      888-255-5194


      On 2010-05-26, at 9:14 PM, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:


        why after all you set the new marker so you don't need the old one.  it 
is like taking one marker out of the book to put the new one in.  it is also 
the standard for markers in word set the new one and delete the old oned.  
        hth 


        From: erik burggraaf 
        Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:35 PM
        To: jim grimsby Jr. 
        Cc: gw-info 
        Subject: Re: Place markers.


        messy. 


        Erik Burggraaf
        Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto.  I'll be 
at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and circulating 
for the rest of the day.
        http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
        888-255-5194


        On 2010-05-26, at 10:15 AM, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:


          hi,  add the new place marker the same way you addedd the first one.  
now tab to the list of place markers set and remove the one you don't need.  
          hth 



          From: erik burggraaf 
          Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:29 AM
          To: jim grimsby Jr. 
          Subject: Re: Place markers.


          I have one. 


          One of my clients is an 8 year old girl.  I've just started teaching 
her to read books on her braille display.  She got a book from the cnib library 
website, and off we went.


          When it came time to stop reading I set her up a place marker.  when 
we went back later to read from where we left off, it went fine.


          I had a problem though because when I tried to update the place 
marker for the new position in the book I couldn't figure it out.  So, any 
ideas about convenient ways to update place markers?


          Best,


          Erik Burggraaf
          Join me Wednesday, May 26th at CNIB Tech Aids fair in Toronto.  I'll 
be at the assistive computing booth from 2 to 4 in the afternoon and 
circulating for the rest of the day.
          http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
          888-255-5194


          On 2010-05-24, at 9:33 PM, jim grimsby Jr. wrote:


            hi place markers were introduced in window-eyes 7.0. 
            if you are using 7.11 still you should update to 7.2. 
            to learn more about place markers see section 19.15: Place markers 
in the window-eyes manual.  after reading this if you still have questions let 
us know.


            From: Anita
            Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 5:55 PM
            To: [email protected]
            Subject: Place markers.


            Hi list,
                what is the place marker feature, and how does it work in 
Window-Eyes? Is it available in 7.11?
                Anita
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