Let me clarify my concerns about browse mode that seems to have ruffled some
feathers on this fine day.
I too have been a WE user since version 1.1 I think it was and would never
consider switching to any other screen reader.  There is no other screen
reader on the market that offers better support than GW and maybe that is my
point.
For me surfing the net is probably one of my main uses of the computer.  So
in my case a broken browse mode and problems related to this function is of
more concern to me in my useage of WE than other functions that concern
other users.
So please understand I am not bashing WE or GW just expressing my concerns
about a part of WE that effects my primary usage of WE.
So I will say it again, Keep up the great work GW but get this browse mode
fixed.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Jo Taliaferro [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:40 AM
To: 'Bryan Peterson'; 'Louis'; 'Tom Kingston'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: latest firefox refreshes more?

Amen to all that!  I've been a WE user since it first came out and wouldn't
change for the world!  I am very disappointed that libraries only have JAWS
if anything at all!  They don't order WE for patrons and our central library
teaches classes and uses only JFW.  How sad is that??

Jo Taliaferro

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Peterson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:35 AM
To: Louis; Tom Kingston
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?

I agree. I was a staunch JFW user until about three years ago when I 
discovered that te latest version of JFW wouldn't read PDF documents 
correctly without some modification to a setting in Adobe Acrobat or even 
JFW itself. I need hardly point out that when I discovered that Window-Eyes 
reads them correctly right out of the box the decision to switch was easy. 
And since GW offers two payment plans it was easy for me to buy it despite 
being unemployed. So the fact that the Commission for the Blind wouldn't pay

for it didn't matter. Needless to say though Browse Mode gets refreshed a 
lot on sites like Youtube and though this is slightly inconvenient I'm more 
than willing to wait for the problem to be fixed if such a solution can be 
found. I like that GW doesn't rush their updates the way other companies 
seem to. I've had folks tell me that the reason they rush is because they 
have more customers, but I can't help wondering if that would continue to be

treu if the schools and agencies who have contracts with the competition 
actually informed their clients that there were indeed other options 
available.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Louis" <[email protected]>
To: "Tom Kingston" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?


> Raul my sympathies go out to you and the rest of the GW staff as well.
> Window Eyes isn't perfect but it is sure excelent and Window Eyes
> offers more value and more enhancements compared to other screen
> readers. One of these enhancements is Script Central. If browse mode
> is bothering people so much can't they write a script for it until GW
> comes out with a new update? Honestly in my experience Window Eyes has
> been the best screen reader I've ever used. I just wish more schools
> and companies would use it rather than the competition. Thanks for
> doing the great work you are doing.
>
> Louis
>
> On 7/27/10, Tom Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The double edged sword here is that everyone at GW suffers from the
>> insidious disability of being only mere humans. And if that's not bad
>> enough, open and honest to boot. My sympathies go out to you, Raul, and 
>> the
>> rest of the gang. wink-wink. ;)
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
>> To: "GW Info Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?
>>
>>
>>> Hello all, quite honestly I sometimes wish nothing was ever said about
>>> rewriting browse mode. Why? Because it's frustrating when every time 
>>> there
>>>
>>> is a problem with an application which uses browse mode doesn't work 
>>> quite
>>>
>>> right, we get beaten over the head with that statement. This is a 
>>> perfect
>>> example why some companies choose to never let on what is coming in next
>>> releases. Not only that, but when browse mode rewriting was mentioned, 
>>> we
>>> didn't know what all other programs and other things would need our
>>> attention. How thoughtless of us to try and keep Window-Eyes stable and
>>> up-to-date in other areas. I personally like that we keep our customers
>>> informed about what is going on, but at the same time, this has a
>>> double-edge in that it comes back to bite us when we don't deliver the 
>>> day
>>>
>>> it's mentioned either.
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>> On 7/27/2010 5:50 PM,  Don H wrote:
>>>>   It is coming up on two years since GW has had a major release of WE.
>>>> It is long over due for the new browse mode which I hope fixes such
>>>> problems.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:24 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: latest firefox refreshes more?
>>>>
>>>> It is sure not getting any better. GwMicro needs to fix their own
>>>> problems. How is it that NVDA is free and works better with firefox? I
>>>> am not sure what are we paying all that money for? If this keeps up I
>>>> will think about switching to System Access. Serotek listens to their
>>>> customers needs and improves the product.
>>>>
>>>> Thank You
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 7/27/2010 5:06:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> [email protected] writes:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi, I know I certainly find it more refreshing...Especially on a 
>>>> hot
>>>> day
>>>>     like today. Just install the lemonaid theme and it makes for a
>>>>     refreshing experience.
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>     On 7/27/2010 4:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
>>>>     >  Is it just me or is the latest firefox refreshing more than ever
>>>>     before?
>>>>     >
>>>>
>>>>
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