And like I said the option of a payment plan with unrestricted use of the program as you pay was the final straw for me. You ask a company like FS for something like that and you'd be lucky if all that happened was you gt laughed off the phone. i probably wouldn't have been a staunch JFW user for ten years like I was had my school, not to mention the Commission for the Blind, even hinted that there might be other options available. Well at the time the only other option I knew of was OutSpoken, which was the only available screen reader for Mack computers back in '95 or so, and the speech quality was rather abysmal to be honest. But heaven forbid they tell me about WIndow-Eyes (or Vocal Eyes as I imagine it was called back then). If I ever have kids and if any of them should end up being blind I'll definitely make sure there are many options available besides whatever the school thinks they should learn. Of course i'll be biased in Window-Eyes' favor but I'll still make sure they know of as many different options as possible.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunshine" <[email protected]> To: "Bryan Peterson" <[email protected]>; "Louis" <[email protected]>; "Tom Kingston" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?


Bryan, well said very well said i  at one time was also a stanch user of
jaws but when i found out things that made me  sit up and take a look i
turned around and said hellow window eyes, welcome home to a great
experience, and ever since i am a strong, supporter of gwmicro, and will
continue to be.
It is truely sad when  schools, and other establishments like govermental,
and private companies do not let people bring to the table other sulations
to make things work better.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" <[email protected]>
To: "Louis" <[email protected]>; "Tom Kingston"
<[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?


I agree. I was a staunch JFW user until about three years ago when I
discovered that te latest version of JFW wouldn't read PDF documents
correctly without some modification to a setting in Adobe Acrobat or even
JFW itself. I need hardly point out that when I discovered that Window-Eyes
reads them correctly right out of the box the decision to switch was easy.
And since GW offers two payment plans it was easy for me to buy it despite
being unemployed. So the fact that the Commission for the Blind wouldn't pay
for it didn't matter. Needless to say though Browse Mode gets refreshed a
lot on sites like Youtube and though this is slightly inconvenient I'm more
than willing to wait for the problem to be fixed if such a solution can be
found. I like that GW doesn't rush their updates the way other companies
seem to. I've had folks tell me that the reason they rush is because they
have more customers, but I can't help wondering if that would continue to be
treu if the schools and agencies who have contracts with the competition
actually informed their clients that there were indeed other options
available.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis" <[email protected]>
To: "Tom Kingston" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?


Raul my sympathies go out to you and the rest of the GW staff as well.
Window Eyes isn't perfect but it is sure excelent and Window Eyes
offers more value and more enhancements compared to other screen
readers. One of these enhancements is Script Central. If browse mode
is bothering people so much can't they write a script for it until GW
comes out with a new update? Honestly in my experience Window Eyes has
been the best screen reader I've ever used. I just wish more schools
and companies would use it rather than the competition. Thanks for
doing the great work you are doing.

Louis

On 7/27/10, Tom Kingston <[email protected]> wrote:
The double edged sword here is that everyone at GW suffers from the
insidious disability of being only mere humans. And if that's not bad
enough, open and honest to boot. My sympathies go out to you, Raul, and
the
rest of the gang. wink-wink. ;)

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
To: "GW Info Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: latest firefox refreshes more?


Hello all, quite honestly I sometimes wish nothing was ever said about
rewriting browse mode. Why? Because it's frustrating when every time
there

is a problem with an application which uses browse mode doesn't work
quite

right, we get beaten over the head with that statement. This is a
perfect
example why some companies choose to never let on what is coming in next
releases. Not only that, but when browse mode rewriting was mentioned,
we
didn't know what all other programs and other things would need our
attention. How thoughtless of us to try and keep Window-Eyes stable and
up-to-date in other areas. I personally like that we keep our customers
informed about what is going on, but at the same time, this has a
double-edge in that it comes back to bite us when we don't deliver the
day

it's mentioned either.

Many thanks.

On 7/27/2010 5:50 PM,  Don H wrote:
  It is coming up on two years since GW has had a major release of WE.
It is long over due for the new browse mode which I hope fixes such
problems.

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*From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:24 PM
*To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: latest firefox refreshes more?

It is sure not getting any better. GwMicro needs to fix their own
problems. How is it that NVDA is free and works better with firefox? I
am not sure what are we paying all that money for? If this keeps up I
will think about switching to System Access. Serotek listens to their
customers needs and improves the product.

Thank You

In a message dated 7/27/2010 5:06:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

    Hi, I know I certainly find it more refreshing...Especially on a
hot
day
    like today. Just install the lemonaid theme and it makes for a
    refreshing experience.

    Cheers!

    On 7/27/2010 4:37 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
> Is it just me or is the latest firefox refreshing more than ever
    before?
    >


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