Hi,

Boy, you could not have expressed my frustrations any better.  I am seriously 
considering Becky and I know a couple of 
others here use it.  At the very least, you should check it out.  There is a 
demo and it is not free but very inexpensive 
and seems to be supported well yet.  The web site is

http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm

I have been using PMMail for over a decade and even with its occasional rough 
edges reading HTML messages, it is 
fast and predictable.  The problem is that it is not really supported any more 
so I am also looking for another option.  
Oddly, my employer blocks all SMTP mail from their network, but PMMail supports 
an old part of POP that lets you 
actually send mail and I use that all the time.  Unfortunately, none of the 
newer e-mail clients that I have found supports 
it.  However, PMMail doesn support SSL connections which is a problem.  I have 
found the same frustrations that you 
have found, although I'm willing to live with the ribbon if everything else 
works well so will watch Windows Live's beta.  
Most people seem happy with Outlook 2003, but there is so much there that seems 
to me to get in the way that I don't 
need.  Also, it is old and sooner or later will not be supported.E-mail is 
something I do so much of that I don't want a 
program that I have to live with, I want one I like and am comfortable with.  
On two machines I've tried, Outlook 2007 is 
very sluggish, very slow to open, and is also unpredictable.  There is probably 
more custimizing I could do, but 
something like adding a contact seems so much more complicated than it is with 
PMMail, for example.  My impression of 
Thunderbird is that it is a good program, but that there is too much 
experimenting with the interface between versions.  
They don't just add features, they seem to be constantly changing underlying 
code as well.  

I know that you and I are not the only ones who feel this way, so would 
appreciate it if you share what you discover.  If 
you look at Becky, I'd be curious as to your reactions.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:18:35 -0700, net bat wrote:

>hi,
>i am getting very fustrated. trying to find a email client that is as good 
>as windows mail.
>none compare to it yet.
>live mail is so so
>but i still can't get the hang of ribbon menus in the live mail beta for 
>windows 7. i can find many of them but i can't activate any of the sub 
>ribbons. i pressed enter on them, tried arrowing to see if they had more 
>options, and tried clicking on them with the mouse and got nowhere.
>thunderbird is so so.
>i still don't know if messages are read or not. the columns still speak even 
>when they are hidden. no thanks.
>i tried postbox.
>don't even download it. it completely disables w e 7.2 you can't even open 
>the w e control panel to make changes and you can't stop if from raddlingg 
>off a bunch of words i can't even find on the screen. it repeats over and 
>over again , non stop when you try to setup a acount.
>pegasus mail. its great for the sighted. it has a lot of help info as you go 
>through the verious menus but none of them speak without the mouse. it does 
>not use browse mode for the messages and read to end will not work so you 
>have to use the arrow keys to read the messages. so this ones out.
>i'm about ready to bit the bullet and buy outlook 2003 if i can find a full 
>version on ebay. at least this version does not have ribbon menus. 
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