Well, I only suggested it as an interim; I didn't say throw it out. There is also www.crosswalk.com, as well as many other sources. I didn't say online Bible wasn't a good program at all, but what do you do while it is being fixed Sometimes solutions don't come over night, they take time to work out. If you use this program, you do what you think best. Again, I was suggesting an interim, so you could continue your studying with out interruption.. I will not comment anymore on this thread.
Pastor Gil? From: Johnny Angel! Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:59 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: GW staff, please see message at bottom from Online Bible's Larry Pierce. First of all Gill, in my opinion, The Online Bible is better then Bible Gateway because it's resident as a stand alone program on your computer and you don't need an internet connection. Very nice where there is no WiFi. Also, it has over 30 English translations, several lexicons and concordenances and dictionaries and offers hundreds of Christian works from many many authors all for the vast majority, free. Secondarily, and more importantly, especially in the light of how many years those of us on the list have been asking on several occasions why GW and Larry Pierce arn't better shaking hands on accessibility issues of this very nice study program, I believe it is only appropriate for the GW staff and Aaron to give a reply to this list, and also now seeing a reply to Mr. Larry Pierce concerning what Mr. Pierce has stated about Aaron not returning his inquiries about what is needed to make his program accessible to us. . Again, quoting Mr Pierce: "We spoke to Aaron at <[email protected]> on January 22, 2010 who never got back to us after the initial contact. We are more then willing fix the program if someone tells us what to do. It works OK with Jaws." . And again, Gill, I do appreciate your input about the Bible Gateway web based program, but the Online Bible program at www.onlinebible.net is a fantastic program that many of us have been using since the early 90s, but it sure seems that someone here has dropped the accessibility ball and never really fixed some real problems since perhaps for the last four years now. What do you say now GW and Aaron? How about re-opening up lines of communication between you guys and Mr. Pierce and the rest of us here on this list concerning what is in my opinion important accessibility to a program that is vital on a daily basis for a good many of us Christians here on this list. This is not just a cute saying: "Give His Word first place, and He will give you first place in everything else". (See Du 28:1-14 and Mt 6:25-33) Johnny Chilelli Erie, PA At 05:36 PM 10/2/2010, you wrote: From: Online Bible <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Online Bible Tech Support Invalid moduel error. I use the screen reader Window-Eyes by GW-Micro Inc. at http://www.gwmicro.com . Because of this, I had to go back to version 2.10.0.x because it seems that the latest versions of the OLB and it's creators are not interested in making the OLB Bible accessible to the blind using the Window-Eyes screen reader. This morning, when I opened the OLB, I was asked to validate the install all over again by answering questions about screen reader usage once again and going through the "What's New" screen. Now, when I try to open any other moduels such as the Strongs concordence or perhaps another version, I am confronted with "Invalid moduel" error message and then I see a message stating the the program is not responding. I wish there was a way for me to repair the program but I can't find my OLB 2.10.0 installation file. Please either instruct me in how I can get the program to work with all of my purchased addons, or please be so kind as to send me a link to a copy of the OLB 2. 10.0 exe installation program. If you are unable to do either, then please make your next release accessible to Window-Eyes screen reader users. I absolutely know of many blind computer users using the very popular Window-Eyes screen reader program who are very disapointed in how Mr. Larry Pierce has ignored our complaints concerning the inacfcdessibility of the last few releases of what was once considered the best Biblical study program for the blind and for sighted users as well ever! But this "turning a blind eye" towards Window-Eyes users by making recent versions of the OLB inaccessible to us is why there are many of us blind computer users who, unfortunately have had to go back to much older versions of the OLB in order to access a goode Bible study program. Please don't simply cast this message off as just another disgruntled complainer. I am not wanting to come off as being that way at all. I am however, wishing to add my voice to the many blind Window-Eyes users who are in desperate need of a good, accessible version of a recent release of the Online Bible program. Please be so kind as to reconsider communicating with the wonderful folks at GW-Micro Inc. Their direct USA phone number is: 1-260-489-3671. The technical support is top notched, easy to access, and friendly to say the least. Thank you for hearing me out. I want to further say that I mean no disrespect towards Mr. Pierce at all. I am the man in Erie, PA who first contacted Mr. Pierce by phone a long time ago to ask him if he could make his DOS based program accessible to blind computer users by, for one thing giving us a "Tile as single window" screen option to make it easier for screen reader users to navigate the OLB program. Mr. Pierce, at that time was more then willing and gracious enough to accommidate us Window-Eyes useers. I understand that the JAWS folks have had a stronger advertising presence, and there are also many JAWS screen reader users who also need a good Bible study program like the OLB, but please understand, Window-Eyes has also been, and is most certainly a force to recen with as a very popular and powerful screen reader program and by rights should have the same respect by software programmers as well. Please be so kind as to consider what I am asking for here. Thank you again for helping, Sincerely, John Chilelli > Erie, PA > Home: 814-217-1880 > Email:[email protected] You have it all wrong. We have contact Window Eyes and they said they would help but never got back to us. We have had other Window eyes users use it with no complaints. We spoke to Aaron at <[email protected]> on January 22, 2010 who never got back to us after the initial contact. 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