Steve, My approach to the mouse is the same as yours given that 3270 emulation is somewhat different than VT-100 emulation. Reflection also moves the cursor to the mouse if one clicks the mouse. I tend to use my cursor to do the exploring and use the mouse pointer to watch areas that might change. What I have done with Reflection is to write scripts that I could associate with the CONTROL LEFT and RIGHT ARROWS to give me the ability to move the 3270 cursor word by word. With this ability, I found that I could do most of my reviewing, especially in the SPF Editor, with the actual 3270 cursor. I also defined a user window to start at column 9 so that I could move within the SPF editor without hearing line numbers. This is not 100% reliable but it works well enough for me. As it turns out, if I move the 3270 cursor into the line number area outside of my user window, Window-Eyes goes back to reading the whole window so I can optionally get line number when I want them without switching user windows. I also defined a user window to read the cursor position that Reflection displays in lines and columns and associated that window to a hot key, and I use hyperactive windows to monitor the status line to tell me when the system is busy or when I can enter data. I also found that associating reading the current line with the TAB key usually gave me enough information to do what I need to do. The ability to program PF keys to do certain things within the SPF editor such as delete the line that the cursor or insert a line below are helpful. These keys simply execude line commands but they work without having to reposition the cursor into the line number area.
There have been some new things in IBM's ZOS that may have changed since you were programming. You don't have to have the wasted line of dots when you split screens any more, and you can actually have more than two screens going at a time. There is also sort of a clipboard function within ISP edit that we have only had here for the past few years that I find useful, although it only works at the line level. Of course, the Windows clipboard also works. There is a lot I could do with Reflection scripts and Window-Eyes apps, but I just have not had the time nor do I have big problems to solve. I know you are an old hand at 3270 stuff so there probably isn't much here that you don't already do. I hope that hummingbird works all right for you. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:42:04 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >That bit with the auto mouse pointer routing sounds like an >interesting idea. Something I hadn't thought of in this case. >Sometimes in the past, I have often liked keeping them separate >because I could mouse around to read screen contents and then click on >a desired part of the screen to move the cursor to that part of the >screen. Hope this makes sense. One really powerful feature in Extra, >anyhow, is single clicks of the mouse move the 3270 cursor to the >mouse pointer position. This is particularly handy while editing >programs in ISPF. >On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:14:15AM -0400, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >> Hi, one thing which I prefer when using any sort of terminal program >> is setting the mouse pointer to follow the cursor. That way if I >> type a command and quickly need to review the output, I just press >> numpad-8 to move the mouse pointer one line up from where it last >> moved. This also comes in handy if using menu style programs where a >> highlight may move and we see it as a cursor. Also, if you are in a >> menu and you quickly need to read certain parts of the screen such >> as a customer database entry, user windows may help. >> >> Thanks. >> >> On 3/13/2011 9:37 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >I'm glad to hear that it works with Window-Eyes. Yeah, I figured on >> >the mouse key review action. I had to do that with Extra too and I >> >can't see any other way to do that anyway because 3270 stuff is >> >largely full screen oriented anyway. Did you have any issues with >> >having to redraw screens to keep the Off Screen Model current? >> > >> >Were you able to access all functions of the program? >> > >> >On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 03:08:23PM -0600, Joe Lanier wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >> >> >>I have used hummingbird and it is somewhat accessable. The vt100 emulation >> >>works well, but, you need to use the mouse keys to read the terminal >> >>screen. >> >>This is the case with all of the emulaters I have used I.e. putty, telnet >> >>and so on. This package can utilize many emulations including 3270. >> >> >> >>Warm Regards.. Joe Lanier >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: Steve Holmes [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:14 PM >> >>To: [email protected] >> >>Subject: 3270 Terminal Emmulation Software >> >> >> >>I have come into a new programming gig in California at an IBM facility >> >>where they use a software package called "Humming Bird" to connect the PC >> >>to >> >>the mainframe for 3270 terminal access. Has anyone heard of this software >> >>and if so, how well might it work with Window-Eyes? >> >> >> >>I just got offered this job and expect to start a week from this Monday! >> >>If >> >>Humming Bird turns out to be a bust with WE, then I think they are willing >> >>to be flexible with an alternative. I happen to own a personal copy of >> >>Extra for Windows version 6.5 that I can bring in but I would like to see >> >>or >> >>know in advance if their native stuff would work instead. >> >> >> >>Thanks for any ideas and input. >> >>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >> >>only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is >> >>related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to >> >>[email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> >> >> >>GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can >> >>manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >> >> >> >> >> >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >> >only. 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