In response to this message, I would like to say that I am using McAfee and I rarely have been asked anything about installation for new programs. Of course, I almost always get the user account control, but I thought that was a Windows thing, not antivirus.

Carol


On 4/7/2011 7:03 AM, Tyler Juranek wrote:
Hmmm.
  You'd think that on a clean install, and or a downloaded upgrade, there would 
be a dialog from your antivirus program asking you if you want to install the 
software.
  If its a clean install, and the dialog doesn't speak, most of the time it's 
either ault a or ault y.
  However, this thread just keeps me wondering about something like this.
  Have a nice day.
  Tyler

----- Original Message -----
From: sandra fouts<[email protected]>
To: "Tom Fairhurst"<[email protected]>,<[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, Apr 7, 2011 0:17:50
Subject: Re: WE 7.5 Upgrade very. Clean Install




Actually,  it's usually there but seems to be missing.  You know,  it might 
also be something with my comcast settings.  I may want to check them and their 
security stuff and see what is on here.  I may also do that tomorrow.  I just 
very recently changed to them.  In fact,  less than a month ago.  I didn't 
think about that at first.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fairhurst
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: WE 7.5 Upgrade very. Clean Install


I've followed this thread and have one more thought. Look in the system tray 
and see if Norton is there. Right click on it and see what options you have. 
You may be able to temporarily disable it. Otherwise, I agree with others that 
Norton does not have a good reputation for use with screen readers, and, I am 
told, their tech support is not very helpful. I would suggest using another 
program. Good luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: sandra fouts
To: Donald E. Bowen, Jr. be [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: WE 7.5 Upgrade very. Clean Install


Thanks.  I may try it tomorrow.  Have I have a thought.  People have suggested 
I disable Norton,  my anti virus program  before I uninstall wind-eyes and re 
install window-eyes.  Well,  That's the problem,  I can't acces Norton.  Norton 
will work in the background,  but if I open it up,  it locks up.   And it's not 
in any of the new windowes files.  Plus the other day,  when it lockup I closed 
WE and started narrator and was still locked up.  I might try closing 
window-eyes,  then starting narrator,  and after try starting norton and see 
what it does.  But still how do I disable Any ideas? Thanks again.  Ori
From: Donald E. Bowen, Jr.
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:35 PM
Subject: WE 7.5 Upgrade very. Clean Install


Hi,

The question was recently posted wherein a user asked if a clean install was 
better than an upgrade.

I downloaded and installed the 7.5 upgrade on my Windows 7 SP 1 32 bit WE 7.2 
machine back on march 16 and found myself wishing I had not done so.  Not for 
any specific reason, just  overall sluggishness and poor response all around.

The CD arrived via Fedex this past Saturday.  I put it in the desk drawer and  
wondered if I could get a refund.

Well, this morning, after three consecutive wineyes.exe crashes, I decided to completely 
uninstall and do the proverbial "clean installation".

First odd thing I noticed was that during the uninstall my backup screen reader 
announced Window Eyes 7.11 uninstall in progress.  As mentioned before, I had 
already done the 7.5 upgrade.

After completely uninstalling and a couple reboots "just to be sure", I 
installed 7.5 from the CD.

The difference is quite remarkable.  Everything working now the way I would 
expect.

One odd note:  After the 7.5 installation completed, including the installation 
of default apps, the WE Quick start did not launch.  I went to the Apps menu 
and, finding no Apps in the list, opened the App Manager, where I found every 
app stopped and marked as untrusted.  I tabbed to the Security button and 
checked the boxes indicating I trusted the Apps and they all started working, 
including the Quick Start App, which whisked me through the settings covered by 
this handy little app.  Then I went to download my two favorite apps, Winamp 
and Hourly Chime and received notices that these apps were not from trusted 
sources.  Of course I indicated that I did trust the sources and the two apps 
installed and work quite well.

While this one case study is certainly not conclusive evidence that a clean 
install is better than an upgrade, it sure worked for me and made me glad I 
bought the upgrade.

Well, enough rambling.  Time to get to work!


Donald E. Bowen, Jr.
Music for Sight

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