Just to add to what you said here:  In some states there may be a default 
screen reader that is expected to be used by all state employees, but it does 
not necessarily mean that a client going through a voc rehab program in that 
state will be required to choose Jaws as their only choice.

Of course the other question one might want to ask is whether there would be 
such a raft of complaining if Window-Eyes was the one getting the favoritism 
that they claim that Jaws is getting. 

People also need to understand that the blind consumer groups have been a part 
of pushing one product over another for many years.  Remember that Jaws for Dos 
was developed and sold by a company owned by an NFB member, and that a lot of 
favoritism has been given to Jaws over the years as a result of that special 
relationship.




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard G Applegate 
  To: 'Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.' ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:26 PM
  Subject: RE: States that allow window-eyes


    I think some people are misunderstanding what was originally said in this 
thread.  The original poster likely meant to say that the state of California 
provides its blind or visually impaired employees with JAWS as a screen reader. 
 This is different than saying the state of California restricts its citizens 
from using other screen readers.

    I'm not sure the ADA applies in this particular situation, at least not in 
the way some are suggesting.  The state of California makes reasonable 
accommodations by providing its blind or visually impaired employees with a 
screen reader.  JAWS is the screen reader they provide.  Without referencing 
both acts, I believe Reasonable Accommodations are part of the Rehabilitation 
Act.

    I'm not challenging anyone but I think proving hardship based on the need 
to learn how to use JAWS as opposed to Window-Eyes would be a hard sell.  If 
the employees were using their own computers to perform the state's work, they 
might have a case for using their screen reader of choice.

    Now the reason for the state's selection of JAWS as its screen reader of 
choice may be based on ignorance, but the fiscal situation currently existing 
in many of our states demonstrates that ignorance in state governments is not 
only accepted but expected.  This is the tacit message sent when we choose the 
same politicians on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in  November each 
year.

   

   

   

  From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. 
[mailto:[email protected]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:01 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: States that allow window-eyes

   

  Mike, hmm, curiously, I wonder why California would force you to use Jaws?  
This is something I believe you can fight against.  There ought to be an 
advocacy or disability rights center somewhere in California to help resolve 
such issues?

   

  Hmm, I don't know; but I don't believe the law allows any state to prescribe 
a particular screen reader over another.

   

  I live in Colorado and, when I was trying to get my retail store opened, Jaws 
was recommended by Vocational Rehabilitation.  But I was able to tell my 
Counselor that I won't take Jaws and that settled it.

   

  I'd say to invoke your rights within the general framework of the ADA.

   

  Sincerely,

  Olusegun

  Denver, Colorado

   

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