Its Friday where I live, so maybe I'm getting confused due to end of week fatigue!
You can have browse mode auto load off by default if you want to, or you can have it auto load on by default if you want to. Don't understand what the problem is. Teaching screen reader users to toggle these features on and off and being able to over-ride default settings (regardless of which default you choose) as required is clearly important, but hardly something which should generate emotion. I have more problems with individual sites and their implementation of forms and other aspects of web design, rather than with Window-Eyes's attempts to make the forms accessible. Clearly, with a redesign of browse mode as a stated GW objective, the attempts to improve forms reliability should become more accurate: I believe the overall concept of browse mode to be a good one, but new design developments being used on the web make for greater complexity. Vaughan. -----Original Message----- From: erik burggraaf [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 23 September 2011 9:24 a.m. To: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Next Window Eyes -- AUTO BROWSE MODE ON and OFF The first thing I do with any screen reader I come across is turn the auto forms mode off. It's a pain in the arse. The rules for when auto forms mode turns on and off are ridiculous to teach. Then you have computers with browser applets installed to auto fil forms for you and that gums up the works. I just hate teaching it, and my clients despise learning it. Where-as they understand that you have to press enter to start typing and something else to go back to browsing all the time and no exceptions. Are we so lazy as a society that the press of an enter key is really too much effort, or should we just switch to apple and have single mode access to entire webpages. I dano, as long as it's optional, smiles. Best, Erik Burggraaf This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-09-22, at 1:28 PM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. wrote: Hi Everyone: Hmm, just thought I'll throw in a suggestion OR TWO, not sure if these can be implemented in Window-Eyes, but several competitors already have it, and as such I don't think it can be that too hard for GW Micro to implement. How about auto Browse mode on and off? I get tired of having to press <enter> to turn browse mode on and then ctrl-shift-a to turn it back on. This slows me down quite a bit at work. Hopefully this can be implemented during the course of the rewrite of the Browse Mode functionality in the next upcoming Window-Eyes! Also, with regards to Eloquence, why does it install more than one package? All over the Control Panel's add/remove programs, I read ETI Eloquence this and that! Could there be one compact install of Eloquence analogous to that in Jaws? May be I'm dreaming a bit, but I sure like Eloquence implementation in Jaws than in Window-Eyes. Sorry, I don't care for the Window-Eyes DecTalk sounds too canned for me to understand! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. ________________________________ Please consider the environment before printing this email and its attachments. Avoid printing, or print double-sided if you can. ------------------------------- This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential and subject to legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this email and attachments is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the author immediately and erase all copies of the email and attachments. The Ministry of Social Development accepts no responsibility for changes made to this message or attachments after transmission from the Ministry. ------------------------------- If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
