You are wrong. All windows screen readers are the same in this regard. It's to do with things that go on behind the scenes. The trick is that many other screen readers have a feature to automaticly detect which mode you need whether you want to browse or type.
If you have a plug in for your browser that autofills forms using data you previously provided in other forms, auto forms mode will be a giant hassel because when you arrow to an edit box and auto forms mode turns on, the next press of the down arrow will take you to the auto fill suggestions instead of returning you to browse mode so you can read the label for the next edit box and go there. It's a bit of a confuser which only goes to prove my point. Best, Erik Burggraaf This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-09-23, at 12:12 PM, David wrote: > Maybe I am wrong here, and in such a case, everyone feel free to arrest me. > > Up through the years, I have had my hands on a few different screen readers. > But out of the ones I have been into, it seems that WE is the only one, where > you have to turn browse mode on and off, to fill in edit boxes. If my > experience goes right, then that means, that there will be thousands of users > round this globe, that never need to hazzle with this kind of on/off > switching. The other screen readers I have tried, you get to the edit box, > type your stuff, and hit TAB - and are taken to the next control. > > Yes you guys, who are doing a lot of form filling. I do understand your > frustration fully, in that you have to fill in one edit box, then turn on > browse mode, move to the next edit box, press Enter, type your stuff, turn on > browse mode, move on... And that is the way the days pass! :) - > To those of you, who seem to have misunderstood this thread a bit: NO! We are > NOT - and I repeat NOT - talking about auto-form filling features. That would > be a third-party software that would automatically fill in the edit boxes for > you. But that is not what we are talking here. We are talking about a feature > in WE, that would automatically turn onn and off browse mode, when you move > in and out of edit boxes. You would still have to do all your typing in each > box on your own. Just to clear up that misunderstanding. > > As I pointed out earlier, I think GW would do well, in making such a feature > a user choice. Those who want it could turn it on, the others could leave it > off, and have it work the way it does as per date. > > For one suggestion, that might at least make the days a bit lighter for those > of you who do a heavy amount of browse mode switching, my experience is that > it could somehow ease your pain, to redefine the hotkey for turning Browse > Mode on/off. Never really liked the idea of the hotkey being a Three-combo. > Use your imagination, and make it into a To-key-combo, and at least your > fingers don't have to search for all that many keys to perform the action. > Personally, since most of my browsing activity is performed by things that > require keystrokes on the right-hand end of the keyboard, I moved the hotkey > to a combo that could be all handed by my right hand. In my case, I defined > Insert-Apostrophe as my new hotkey. made at least the thing a bit easier. > Still, hate this turn off, turn on, stuff all the day. And that even after > four years with daily WE usage. The day GW leaves me the choice of having the > thing turn itself off when such is needed, I know what choice to make. Smile! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: Next Window Eyes -- AUTO BROWSE MODE ON and OFF > > Hi Eric: > > I believe that if Auto Browse Mode can be implemented in Window-Eyes, it > would not be forced on everyone. In my case, I have VERY LONG COMPLICATED > MEDICAL CLAIMS forms to fill out. For example, I supply a customer wipes, > total of 63 for each day to equal 30/31 days (28 or 29 days in the case of > February). Using the current method, it takes nearly an hour and a half to > complete the exercise. The way the powers that be have it set up, I can't > simply enter a range of dates to bill for. Each day MUST BE billed > separately, no future dates allowed. > > I think that an Auto Browse Mode feature MIGHT CUT DOWN my time by may be 45 > minutes. I generally have about ten of these claims each month. A royal > pain! When possible, I have our boys do it for me because they can do it a > bit faster by simply hovering the mouse over which date they want to populate > the form with and do a quick click. It takes 15 minutes or less to complete > each claim this way. Using a screen reader, and, as I said the way the > claims form is designed leaves much to be dewsired, I DO NOT enjoy the same > luxury our boys have with the form. > > I can't even extract and EMail the form to anyone for a close examination. > It has to be filled out online on a state operated web portal. The site is > poorly designed and I am wrestling with the state daily to have things fixed. > > > I've played with the auto forms mode in the Jaws demo I keep around so I can > help some of my customers. I think I like what I was able to observe. I > have reason to believe that GW Micro would have an even better implementation > of the Auto Browse Mode if it does it. > > I didn't say the foregoing about GW Micro to make the heart skip beats! > Window-Eyes, even though I am NOT A HAPPY CAMPER with Version 7.5.1, is the > ONLY SCREEN READER I can use for accessing the Web Portal I alluded to; Jaws > could not even SHAKE A STICK at it. I've not tried System Access or NVDA, > but may be I should at some point in time. > > I can understand why your clients MIGHT NOT LIKE an Auto Browse Mode. No one > likes change, but if CHANGE helps me improve on how I get my job done, I > welcome it wholeheartedly and I'll learn. I don't use Windows7 right now > because all the software I run at work would only work under Windows XP > Professional. Not enough reasonably accessible software out there in the > marketplace to run a POINT OF SALE that process credit cards and electronic > checks via the computer, so I am stuck with what I can get at the present > moment. > > Sincerely, > Olusegun > Denver, Colorado If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
