David, The main problem seems to be the preferences dialot on the Settings menu. It is unusual, but there is possibly a way to make it work all right. I tried that same dialog with NVDA, and it seemed to me that it behaved the same with NVDA as it did with Window-Eyes. I think that most of NotePad++ works all right in terms of accessability, but have certainly not visited every menu. Once you get focus to a tab within the preferences dialog, Window-Eyes seems to work all right. When the dialog opens, the CLOSE button has focus, and tabbing doesn't do anything. However, it seems that the arrows move one off the close button. Sometimes I found I could navigate to different tabs or pages with the arrow keys, but at other times I could not find a way to get back to that control and had to click on a tab with the mouse keys. As mentioned yesterday, I sometimes found that the mouse showed different controls than I heard when I tabbed through the dialog with the TAB key. However, if I clicked on something with the mouse, then the controls I encountered with the TAB key seemed to be the same. This is also quite strange, but one could live with this and, as I said, the rest seems pretty good. The price is certainly right. I know that Jeff Bishop has apparently looked at this some so hopefully he may have more comments. I happened to look at this because it is a package my employer offers for text editing, but I'll stick with UltraEdit since I own it.
Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:33:25 +0200, David wrote: >I too, was under the impression that Notepad++, should be working pretty >well with screen readers. That is, I have never had my hands on the >software; just got the impression from some statements made. I just wanted >to ask, if anyone knows whether the software works anything better with the >other screen readers on the market. I.e, is the trouble here reported >something in the software itself, or is it due to the way WE handles the >matter? >Just wondered. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pat Ferguson" <[email protected]> >To: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]> >Cc: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 4:11 AM >Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and NotePad Plus Plus >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I guess I can use NotePad Plus Plus. It seems to be working, and I don't >> have to associate any files. I just do the context thing arrow down to >> edit with notepad Plus Plus, andit opens it. >> >> I can edit these files pretty good, and take out all the "null null" and >> stuff. Window-Eyes does pretty good with NotePad Plus Plus, as long as I >> stay out of the menus. >> >> Jarte didn't work, as it will not open Word 97 and Word 2003 files without >> some kind of Microsoft converter. >> >> Do I have an older version of Jarte? >> >> Thanks much. >> >> Pat Ferguson >> At 08:42 PM 4/19/2012, you wrote: >>>Jarte should work fine for you. Be sure your default for saving the file >>>is Microsoft Word. >>> >>>Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Ferguson" >>><[email protected]> >>>To: "Steve Jacobson" <[email protected]> >>>Cc: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:09 PM >>>Subject: Re: Window-Eyes and NotePad Plus Plus >>> >>> >>>>Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>>I do want to thank Aaron and each one who responded to my message about >>>>NotePad Plus Plus. >>>> >>>>I'm going to ditch that program. >>>> >>>>How does Jarte and Ed sharp work with .doc and .docx files? I know they >>>>both work with Window-Eyes, as I have them both installed on my >>>>computer. >>>> >>>>I guess I'll just bring my documents into DuxBury and edit them before >>>>brailling them. >>>> >>>>For some reason, when I try to open a Word document, Adobe Acrobat >>>>reader opens now, or tries to open, I did not intend for this to happen, >>>>but I've botched something up. >>>> >>>>I know that WordPad isn't as good as Microsoft Word 2010, but I thought I >>>>might use it for a while. I do own Microsoft Office 2010, and I suppose I >>>>should install it, but I would do it reluctantly. <grin> lol. >>>> >>>>I do like the way that Window-Eyes works with Duxbury. >>>> >>>>You see, I'm trying to braille a few songs with the chords under each >>>>line of text. Now the chords are only like F AM, and so on. I've got a >>>>lot to learn about Duxbury, but it's kind of fun. It sure beats brailling >>>>all these songs by hand. lol. >>>> >>>>We learn by doing. >>>> >>>>Thanks a bunch. >>>> >>>>Blessings, >>>> >>>>Pat Ferguson >>>>At 02:43 PM 4/19/2012, you wrote: >>>>>Pat and others, >>>>> >>>>>It appears to me that when I access the NotePad++ preferences menu, I >>>>>can make it accessible by finding >>>>>the "Show Close Button on Every Tab" check box with the mouse pointer >>>>>and then unchecking it. After >>>>>that, I seem to have to close the preferences with ALT F4 or from the >>>>>system menu. Also, I have not >>>>>found a way to save the preference that does not include the close >>>>>button on every TAB. Jeff, maybe if >>>>>what I have found works, the developer would be willing to make it >>>>>easier to not have a close button on >>>>>every TAB or look at why that particular option seems to mess everything >>>>>up. I only did this a few >>>>>minutes ago so I don't know if there are other limitations. >>>>> >>>>>As others have mentioned, NotePad++ really won't process Word documents >>>>>very well. I tried one >>>>>document, and when one turns word wrapping on, much of the text does >>>>>display. However, what has not >>>>>been mentioned is that Duxbury takes advantage of Word styles to do >>>>>formatting, and you would loose much >>>>>of that by trying to edit a document in NotePad++. However, you can do >>>>>some editing of Word Documents >>>>>directly within Duxbury itself. Unless I am missing something, you >>>>>would be best off learning about >>>>>Duxbury's edit features if you are planning on editing documents from >>>>>others that are created in Word. >>>>>If you are creating your own documents for brailling, using Duxbury's >>>>>editor might not be a bad way to >>>>>go as well, also. Obviously, you could look at creating a text document >>>>>with NotePad++ and then either >>>>>including Duxbury commands or bringing your text into Duxbury and >>>>>applying formatting there. I think, >>>>>though, that it is worth giving some thought to all this and perhaps >>>>>experimenting before settling on a >>>>>solution. I don't think associating DOC, DOCX, and other such >>>>>extensions to NotePad is the answer. >>>>>Associating them with Duxbury might work, though. Also WordPad may work >>>>>for some of these. >>>>> >>>>>Best regards, >>>>> >>>>>Steve Jacobson >>>>> >>>>>On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:29:39 -0500, Pat Ferguson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >Hi Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> >I'm using the latest version of Window-Eyes with the text editor >>>>> >called NotePad Plus Plus. This is free. >>>>> >>>>> >I'm trying to associate all my doc and docx files with it, so that it >>>>> >will open them in their proper format, instead of using either >>>>> >NotePad or WordPad. I'm using the latest version of Window-Eyes, but >>>>> >the menus don't appear to be accessible in the Preferences menus. I >>>>> >kind of like the program. I'm using it because I'm avoiding Microsoft >>>>> >Word like a plague. I don't like it, and I'm not going to use it. >>>>> > ><smile> >>>>> >>>>> >I have to keep my files in their proper format, to translate and >>>>> >braille them with Duxbury. >>>>> >>>>> >Any help with NotePad Plus Plus and Window-Eyes is greatly >>>>>appreciated, please. >>>>> >>>>> >Or if anyone has another better editor that will correctly read .doc. >>>>> >and .docx file, with Window-Eyes, I would greatly appreciate this >>>>>so very much. >>>>> >>>>> >Thanks much. >>>>> >>>>> >Pat Ferguson >>>>> >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>>sender only. 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