Tom, When I first posted this thread, your copy of Window-Eyes had some functionality for that tree view that mine did not. Last night, when I down arrowed through the tree view, WE spoke the control name and nothing else. No on, off, checked, unchecked, nothing. Tonight, while I was composing this reply, I decided to open IE and go back into the internet options> security> internet> custom level settings. At the time of this post, the status of everything in the custom level tree view is labeled as off or on, as I normally would have expected.
If it happens again, I'll have to remember to open the WE control panel and see which set file is loaded. There may be a set file association issue. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 3:19 PM To: Gwmicro gw-info mail list Subject: Re: Control statuses not being spoken. Regarding your what if question? Well, I've never seen this anywhere else but in this window. Radio buttons work fine everywhere else. And customizing internet security settings isn't exactly something folks are dealing with on a daily basis. I took a look at the active and focused windows with scripting and found no radio buttons or custom controls; the latter of which could be a variant of a radio button control. The focused window is a standard tree view. And it has no children, which is what an actual radio button group would be. And when I print the focused control text of the tree view I get exactly what I'm on. But that's not to say that Microsoft didn't make it look like a group of radio buttons for the typical mouse user. So perhaps NVDA made it work like what it looks like instead of what it actually is. And I don't understand your comments about the controls not being spoken. They are being spoken. They only require a press of the space bar in addition to the cursoring you would do with a radio button group. And you hear the change between on and off. So, as I said previously, I see this as a cleanup rather than a problem. Now I'm only dealing with on/off controls instead of on/off with a check box that seems out of context. But yes, given the layout it does seem like they should be radio buttons. But GW has always leaned toward giving us what is actually there instead of writing endless workarounds to solve the programming inconsistencies of others, which typically ups the odds of problems arising from such workarounds as well as making the screen-reader more bloated. Regards, Tom On 11/5/2012 7:48 AM, [email protected] wrote: > That's fine, Tom, but what if other controls configured the same way aren't > being spoken either. Maybe controls you do want to hear. Just for > curiosity's sake, I launched NVDA on that page. NVDA is calling those > controls radio buttons. Do you want to be able to check such control > statuses at a glance, or would you prefer having to go through item by item > and make selections just to make sure they're set the way you want them? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:09 PM > To: Gwmicro gw-info mail list > Subject: Re: Control statuses not being spoken. > > I don't know if this is intentional or not. But personally I see it as a > fix. All options are On/Off toggles and their status is voiced when I > hit the space bar. This is why I always thought the check boxes were > either an odd redundancy on Microsoft's part or a quirk in Window-Eyes > be it that they serve no real purpose. But it was never a big enough > deal to ask about. So I see them as easier to use now. > > Regards, > Tom > > On 11/4/2012 7:03 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> Hi, GW Micro staff, listers. >> >> WE 8 beta, Win 7 54 bit home premium. I noticed that the IE 9 Tools> >> Internet Options> security> internet> custom tree view is not indicating >> which items are checked and which ones are not. Look into this please? >> >> Lou N. >> > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is > related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to > [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. 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