Yes this might be true but where do you move keys to in the event you ad a key for every type of control. You say e should move to edit boxes. Then where do you move the feeld set key to. I use this all the time to find related controls. Then what happens as elaments are added we already have the problem where some keys just don't make scence. For example ; and shift ; to move threw landmarks. Sorry adding more quick nav keys just will muddy the watter. Control search mode is the best salution to the problem. Hth
-----Original Message----- From: Munawar Bijani [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:05 PM To: Ralf Kefferpuetz; 'Patrick'; [email protected] Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key layout My point is I don't want to press two keys just to move by one element. Control Search Mode is good for specific searches but when using it to move by one element, it involves extra key presses which slow me down. For instance, I should be able to press b to move to the next button, but if I press n2b it should move me to the second button relative to my current position as it has in the past. It's not a matter of easyness for me, it's more a matter of productivity. I'm faster at browsing with other screen readers because they don't have the Control Search Mode and implement quick navigation keys for almost every element. Those that don't exist are rarely used as navigation steps anyway. Munawar A. Bijani Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com BPCPrograms, LLC http://www.bpcprograms.com [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Ralf Kefferpuetz Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:48 PM To: 'Munawar Bijani' ; 'Patrick' ; [email protected] Subject: RE: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key layout To be honest, I can't understand your frustration, it is easy and simple the way it is.... Ralf Heinrich Kefferpuetz Web: http://www.keffi.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Keffi.eu -----Original Message----- From: Munawar Bijani [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:46 PM To: Patrick; [email protected] Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key layout Yes, this was a mistake in my last post, but my frustrations still hold. You can move to the next and previous controls but for things like buttons, you have to press two keys just to move to the next button. Munawar A. Bijani Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com BPCPrograms, LLC http://www.bpcprograms.com [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key layout He's not saying next control. He's referring to specific controls. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:09 AM To: Gwmicro gw-info mail list Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key layout C and Shift-C are single key strokes for next and previous control. Hth, Tom On 11/9/2012 5:35 AM, Munawar Bijani wrote: > This was one of my biggest problems with W-E and why I still have JAWS > installed on my system. I feel like the Control Search Mode,although > useful, is overkill in most cases. For instance, E should move you to > the next Edit Box, not fieldset since no one really pays attention to > fieldsets anyway. > B is free right now and should move you to the next button instead of > having to press N + B. Another shortcut that will be useful is the > ability to move to the next control without pressing two keystrokes > (N+C.) I think Control Search Mode should still exist as a way to > execute more specific movement commands like third button or third > control, as I have found this quite useful, but for just single > element movement I find it to be unnecessary. > Munawar A. Bijani > Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com > BPCPrograms, LLC > http://www.bpcprograms.com > [email protected] > *From:* Warren Logan <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2012 1:10 AM > *To:* 'Patrick' <mailto:[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Subject:* RE: issue with insert key layout Agreed. We shouldn't have > to use a script just to access some extra browse mode commands. I'm > sure we can't be the only ones to feel this way... > Warren > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Patrick [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:54 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* issue with insert key layout > > When you turn on the insert key layout, if you’re on a webpage > already, the keys don’t work til you refresh. Can we please just > have the commands built into browse mode so I don’t have to do two > key presses to get to a control or have to use an app? I don’t see > why this isn’t, if not included by default, a browse mode layout > option. > Thanks, > Patrick > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. 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