I say move the landmark to the control search feature, and keep the classic, the classics. Unvisited Links, yes, add that to the normal key structure like with links and visited links, but not landmarks. Make them be the "D" key instead while in control search mode. Makes more since anyway!
On 11/10/12, Trenton Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: > And yes, I do agree with Jim by the way with his post which was posted > before mine. > > > On 11/10/12, Trenton Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: >> Ok, here's what I'm talking about with these chromevox commands: >> >> •Press ChromeVox + N or ChromeVox + P and then one of the following >> commands: >> ◦A = Anchor >> ◦Q = Block quote >> ◦B = Button >> ◦X = Checkbox >> ◦C = Combobox >> ◦G = Graphic >> ◦H = Heading >> ◦J = Jump >> ◦; = Landmark >> ◦F = Form Field >> ◦L = Link >> ◦O = List >> ◦I = List item >> ◦R = Radio button >> ◦S = Slider >> ◦T = Table >> >> Care to play around and see what I mean for yourself? Visit: >> http://www.chromevox.com/ >> , and grab the extension for chrome. Yes, you'll need NVDA or the >> shark, at least to install it. The Chromevox site itself is out of >> date, so best is to read release notes after installing. >> Now, as for that Unvisited link command, good idea. The Ctrl-B command >> which by the way clashes with the Organize Favorites feature in >> Explorer, bad idea! >> >> Remember folks, in the blindness world, its not a 1 size fits all in >> the screen reading world. Hey, I'm using NVDA to write this since >> pressing the letter C sometimes produces the letter O for some reason, >> unless I restart WE a second time. >> So, there ya go! >> Use the screen reader, that gets the job done, for you. One reader >> doesn't cut anymore. >> >> >> On 11/10/12, Sim Kah Yong <[email protected]> wrote: >>> If and when GW Micro is seriously thinking of incorporating new hotkeys >>> for >>> >>> browse mode, I would wish to have hotkey for unvisited links. This will >>> be >>> very useful to navigate on sites when I have visited most of the links. >>> Thanks for hearing our feedback. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Warren Logan" <[email protected]> >>> To: "'Ralf Kefferpuetz'" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:08 AM >>> Subject: RE: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key >>> layout >>> >>> >>> Well why not build the new hotkeys in to regular browse mode and leave >>> the >>> already established ones like previous control and next control in there >>> as >>> well? That way you can just undefine the ones you don't want and there's >>> no >>> trouble for anyone. This way, everybody wins. I can't imagine this would >>> be >>> too hard to do... >>> >>> >>> >>> Warren >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ralf Kefferpuetz [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 6:48 PM >>> To: 'Munawar Bijani'; 'Patrick'; [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key >>> layout >>> >>> >>> To be honest, I can't understand your frustration, it is easy and simple >>> the >>> way it is.... >>> >>> Ralf Heinrich Kefferpuetz >>> Web: http://www.keffi.eu >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Keffi.eu >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Munawar Bijani [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:46 PM >>> To: Patrick; [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key >>> layout >>> >>> Yes, this was a mistake in my last post, but my frustrations still hold.. >>> You >>> >>> can move to the next and previous controls but for things like buttons, >>> you >>> have to press two keys just to move to the next button. >>> Munawar A. Bijani >>> Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com >>> BPCPrograms, LLC >>> http://www.bpcprograms.com >>> [email protected] >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Patrick >>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:36 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key >>> layout >>> >>> He's not saying next control. He's referring to specific controls. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tom Kingston >>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 5:09 AM >>> To: Gwmicro gw-info mail list >>> Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key >>> layout >>> >>> C and Shift-C are single key strokes for next and previous control. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> On 11/9/2012 5:35 AM, Munawar Bijani wrote: >>>> This was one of my biggest problems with W-E and why I still have JAWS >>>> installed on my system. I feel like the Control Search Mode,although >>>> useful, is overkill in most cases. For instance, E should move you to >>>> the next Edit Box, not fieldset since no one really pays attention to >>>> fieldsets anyway. B is free right now and should move you to the next >>>> button instead of having to press N + B. Another shortcut that will be >>>> useful is the ability to move to the next control without pressing two >>>> keystrokes (N+C.) I think Control Search Mode should still exist as a >>>> way to execute more specific movement commands like third button or >>>> third control, as I have found this quite useful, but for just single >>>> element movement I find it to be unnecessary. >>>> Munawar A. Bijani >>>> Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com >>>> BPCPrograms, LLC >>>> http://www.bpcprograms.com >>>> [email protected] >>>> *From:* Warren Logan <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2012 1:10 AM >>>> *To:* 'Patrick' <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* RE: issue with insert key layout >>>> Agreed. We shouldn't have to use a script just to access some extra >>>> browse mode commands. I'm sure we can't be the only ones to feel this >>>> way... >>>> Warren >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> *From:* Patrick [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:54 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* issue with insert key layout >>>> >>>> When you turn on the insert key layout, if you're on a webpage >>>> already, the keys don't work til you refresh. Can we please just >>>> have the commands built into browse mode so I don't have to do two >>>> key presses to get to a control or have to use an app? I don't see >>>> why this isn't, if not included by default, a browse mode layout >>>> option. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Patrick >>>> >>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is >>> related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to >>> [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>> >>> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can >>> manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. If you >>> reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >>> only. 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