Well said. Like I said before, put the hotkeys in to regular window-eyes
browse mode, get rid of control search mode and replace it with the ability
to move through elements with the number keys plus the element hotkey.



Warren


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 12:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key
layout


How many times do I have to post this message? I shouldn't have to conform
to a jaws layout for everything else just so that I can navigate easier on
the web. Browse mode is being upgraded. This should include upgrading the
way of navigating on the web, not taking the easy way out and relying on an
app!

-----Original Message-----
From: Trenton Matthews
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:36 PM
To: Munawar Bijani
Cc: Warren Logan ; Patrick ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Control Search Mode Is Overkill: Re: issue with insert key
layout

I was originally gonna send a very lengthy message about this topic, gladly
it didn't go this way. Instead, I'll simply say, why fight for? If ya like
the way WE has had it since v7.0, and that's for everything, then use the
original layout. If your prefer a layout that's similar to everything, then
press ctrl-alt-0, and keep it on. That, is all!

PS. Oh, wonding while the insert layout is running, oiginal WE hot keys do't
get mixed in to it? It get confusing a little bit. Have it say, not a valid
key press, til ya press ctrl-alt-0 to disabe insert keyboard layout, and go
back to original keystrokes.



On 11/9/12, Munawar Bijani <[email protected]> wrote:
> MessageThis was one of my biggest problems with W-E and why I still
> have JAWS installed on my system. I feel like the Control Search
> Mode,although useful, is overkill in most cases. For instance, E
> should move you to the next Edit Box, not fieldset since no one really
> pays attention to fieldsets anyway.
>
> B is free right now and should move you to the next button instead of
> having
> to press N + B. Another shortcut that will be useful is the ability to
> move
> to the next control without pressing two keystrokes (N+C.)
>
> I think Control Search Mode should still exist as a way to execute
> more specific movement commands like third button or third control, as
> I have found this quite useful, but for just single element movement I
> find it to be unnecessary.
>
> Munawar A. Bijani
> Blog: http://munawar0009.blogspot.com
> BPCPrograms, LLC
> http://www.bpcprograms.com
> [email protected]
>
> From: Warren Logan
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:10 AM
> To: 'Patrick'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: issue with insert key layout
>
> Agreed. We shouldn't have to use a script just to access some extra
> browse mode commands. I'm sure we can't be the only ones to feel this
> way...
>
>
>
>
> Warren
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Patrick [mailto:[email protected]]
>   Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:54 PM
>   To: [email protected]
>   Subject: issue with insert key layout
>
>
>   When you turn on the insert key layout, if you're on a webpage
> already, the keys don't work til you refresh. Can we please just have
> the commands built into browse mode so I don't have to do two key
> presses to get to a control or have to use an app? I don't see why
> this isn't, if not included by default, a browse mode layout option.
>   Thanks,
>   Patrick
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