Why surely you can!  a demo of most screen readers is absolutely free.  I 
know that both provide tutorials as well.  I taught myself most of what I 
know and so can you.
Perhaps it's not what you'd prefer in terms of learning.  But i have always 
been personally proactive about making every effort to do whatever it takes 
to get the job done.  Then after I have done so and something doesn't work, 
i can take ownership of the fact is that I did the best i could.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]>
To: "'Amanda Lee'" <[email protected]>; "gw-info" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic - U.S Federal Workers using Window-Eyes?


Learning it  and affording may be two different things.  The  government 
isn't going to buy jaws for me and I can't just go out and buy it.  I think 
it's great if people can get both of them.  The key word,  money.  "smile"
-----Original Message-----
From: Amanda Lee [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 12:37 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: Re: Off topic - U.S Federal Workers using Window-Eyes?

        CAP does provide both Jaws and Window-Eyes.  When I worked for the 
Department of Commerce, I obtained both Screen Readers which is my 
preference.  I was a Technical Point of Contact for a division so i needed 
to be able to access a number of different applications.  Therefore, it has 
always been my experience that one Screen Reader may interface more 
effectively with a certain application.  So one Screen Reader doesn't always 
meet all needs across a wider array of applications.  The IRS and other 
Federal Government agencies utilize what may be commonly termed as 'Seat 
management'.  This approach applies to all employees regardless of their 
access needs.  I don't really believe this is the best approach but, for the 
most part, it will meet most needs.  What I find problematic though is 
whenever an application is  determined  not to work with JAWS or a 
particular Screen Reader and there isn't sufficient technical ability within 
the organization involved to properly evaluate
 and/or take other measures to provide an appropriate reengineering 
solution.  This places the employee involved in a very precarious position 
and frequently they become unproductive.  Seat Management is appropriate in 
the majority of instances.
However, when there isn't enough flexibility to effect a solution which 
could indeed be that another Screen Reader is obtained along with applicable 
Apps written, then an employee loses valuable time and productivity 
notwithstanding the effects on his or her morale and interrelationships with 
co-workers and his or her respective management.
My recommendation to anyone is to be flexible enough to learn another Screen 
Reader.  You might not prefer it over Window-Eyes as I don't prefer JAWS but 
I have advanced skills with both and I adapt as there have been instances 
where I was required to use JAWS and had no other choice.
I know that if GW Micro were a larger organization, perhaps they could have 
effected a broader marketing approach.  Still, after all these years, GW 
Micro is still in business and it serves to prove they are doing an 
effective job of what they do.  I do see though that within the Department 
of Defense too that Window-Eyes is beginning to prove it's capabilities and 
flexibility with how it can be customized to interface without the need to 
utilize specialized syntax or or such.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Off topic - U.S Federal Workers using Window-Eyes?


It depends on the agency.  Many agencies use the Computer Access
Program, (CAP), which is under DOD, but many agencies like the VA
contract with it.  CAP allows you some choice in selecting the kind of
equipment you want, and they will purchase Window Eyes for you.
However, some proprietary programs used by the government have been
scripted for JAWS, so JAWS works better with them.  The IRS and SSA use
a different approach. They handle computer access themselves, and have
developed exclusive contracts with vendors, so you do not have a choice.
Also, the applications they use have been scripted for JAWS, so it is
unlikely that Window Eyes would work well with them anyway.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wolfe [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:45 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: Off topic - U.S Federal Workers using Window-Eyes?

Dear all,


    Does anyone on here work for the U.S federal government using
Window-Eyes at work? In many many conversations wih people and programs
that I've attended, it appears that JAWS has a federal contract with the
federal government. I'm not trained with JAWS Screen Reader, so would
like to know your advice on whether its worth my while to learn JAWS or
not for federal employment. I'm just so annoyed that I was trained with
Window-Eyes and its not even used almost anywhere of employment. Can
somebody or anybody give me advice on what to freakin do. Right now I'm
blamed for not knowing JAWS for the IRS training program, so I couldn't
complete it impart cause of it.


    This is where the government in my view screws up by picking losers
and winnersx in things. I wish that Window-Eyes and JAWS could work in
the federal government. However, the IRS in particular thinks that
Window-Eyes isn't as powerful as JAWS. I've had two separate occasions
had Window-Eyes through the Small Business Administration and another
internship in D.C. How many freakin screen readers must we know what
should we know or what can we do? I'm so so tired of the confusing mess
of the disorganized Vocational Rehabilitation programs that  they are
obviously failures and us students are blamed for it?
Thanks for listening just I want work with my social science degree just
that not even SPSS softwares and other necessary softwares don't
currently work with Window-Eyes or JAWS and there is no clear answers or
standards of what we should know to obtain a job or anything.


Thanks,
Peter
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