What do you use band in a box for? Ihave actually tried it before and wasn’t 
impressed with it for some reason.



From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:03 PM
To: Sky Mundell
Subject: Re: Two of the few reasons I won't switch to Window-eyes as a primary 
screen reader



Yeah,



Sonar isn't gonna cut it though for what I need to be able to achieve.  I need 
access to the styles, and to the real tracks provided by BIAB.  there's just no 
way around it.



Chris.



----- Original Message -----

From: Sky Mundell <mailto:[email protected]>

To: Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:[email protected]>

Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:15 PM

Subject: Re: Two of the few reasons I won't switch to Window-eyes as a primary 
screen reader



Hi Chris, I too an a musician, and I use Reaper with ReaAccess on windows 7, 
however the plugin is no longer in development. I do use Sonar 8.5 though, and 
I actually talked to dancing dots about making the sonar x1 x2 x3 and they said 
it would be a big job scripting. In adition they told me that they are also 
going to be making their music technology work with Window-Eyes and other 
screen readers, so you’ll at least have a choice as which readers to use in the 
dancing dots products soon. I don’t have any expeeriences with Rapcity, but I 
can tell you that John Martin has written scripts to make rapcity work with 
jaws, not windoweyes at this time. but a lot of the music preasts is firmly 
planted in JAWS s land at this time. however, I am very impressed with we, 
still.



From: Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:[email protected]>

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 4:02 PM

To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Two of the few reasons I won't switch to Window-eyes as a primary 
screen reader



So, I've been playing now with Window-eyes for about a week, and I must say... 
I'm blown away!  I cannot get over how well it works on XP, 7, and definitely 
especially! Windows 8!  All of this said however, some of you may or may not 
know from other lists that I'm on, I am a professional musician/audio engineer. 
 Most of my work is done on my mac with ProTools, yes, however, there are two 
programs which in my field are absolutely paramount! that I use.  there is no 
way around either.  Neither one can be dropped, or I'd lose my job.  One of 
them is Rhapsody from Real Networks.  Currently, I am having to turn off W E, 
and fire up JAWS to use it, as the interface is somewhat strange how things are 
laid out, thus, I use the Rhapsody Blind scripts.  Basically they do things 
like helping me move focus into the html content area of the program etc.  
Before anyone asks can't you use the mouse pointer in W E and just click 
somewhere in the area to focus and turn on browse mode?  In theory=3
 F Yes.  the issue is that sometimes it doesn't seem to work.  I can't even 
give you a senario where it won't work.  It seems to be randomly inconsistent.



The other program which is by far and away more of a must have is PG-Music's 
Band in a Box 2012 Ultra Edition.  I have again, the jaws scripts that were 
made by Peter Torpy, and they work phinominally, however, again, I hate having 
to use the fish any more than absolutely necesary.  the issue with Band in A 
Box is kind of the same wall we ran up against with Cakewalk Sonar.  It's very 
very graphical for one thing.  The other thing is depending on certain 
circumstances, the main chord sheet window visually changes to accomidate 
whatever you're doing.  Also, though I don't know the specifics of how this was 
done, he has it in the jfw scripts where pressing left and right arrows keys, 
as well as up and down arrow keys will move you from one section of a bar in 
your chord sheet to another.  for instance.  When I start out a song in the key 
of C mager, I land on the first field of the chord sheet which is pronounced 
as, C: 1,1.  So this tells me, I'm on a C chord, and I'm in bar 1, beat 1
 .  Then if I would right arrow, I'd go to bar 1, beat 3.  One more right arrow 
and I'm on bar 2, beat 1, and again, bar 2, beat 3.  Etc.  Without the scripts, 
I can't even arrow around the chord sheet.  It's not a matter of you are 
actually moving, but Window-eyes isn't telling you so.  It literally will not 
even move focus.  The mouse pointer at this time is pretty much a forget it!  
Don't even attempt!  I wouldn't even begin! to know how to script or set this!  
My guess is you'd have to do both, and probably more on the scripting side.  It 
would be pretty heavy work if I had to guess.  I'm not sure it would be all 
that difficult, as much as just involved.  I'd be glad to pay someone to make 
me custom W E scripts/sets, but, I couldn't do anything until the 3rd of next 
month when I get my check.  Also we'd have to find a way to get the program to 
you for testing.  the whole program, by the time you put all the real tracks 
samples etc. together is around, may god be my witness, 80 gi
 gs!  I know what I just said!  I didn't say meggabyes.  Yes, I do know the 
difference.  I'd better! seeing I have several computer certifications.  I said 
exactly what I said:  80 gigs, or 80,000 megs!  Well, ok, fine, technically a 
gig isn't 1000 megs, it's 1024 megs, so you're looking more like, 81,920MB, but 
who's counting.  Obviously me, LOL!  The point is, you'd probably have to send 
me a USB hard drive, let me load it, then mail it back to you.  I dono how we'd 
deal with that, but we'd work something out.  This is the main reason though 
that I won't, and can't, switch totally to W E.  If it wasn't for those 2 
programs, I'd be W E all the way, and would never ever look back.



Chris.




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