Hi Sam,
 
Sorry, it sounds like a good idea, but the two languages (or systems) are so
unalike that  it's like saying "can't you modify that book in Chinese so
it's readable for us in English?".  You really do have to start over.
 
And, even if they were very similar, the authors of those scripts usually
don't publish their source code  (as we usually do in the Window-Eyes
community, in order to help other developers), most often because they are
charging money for their scripts.
 
Chip
 
 
 
From: Samuel Wilkins [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 3:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Two of the few reasons I won't switch to Window-eyes as a
primary screen reader
 
This has brought to light something with which we can pick the brains of all
those app developers on the list.  Would it not be possible to modify Jaws
scripts so that the programmes that are scripted with Jaws (such as Rhapsody
and Band in a Box) can work with Window-Eyes?  I know it will be necessary
to know the jaws programming Language, but I don't see why it can't be done,
unless of course there is copy protection.  
 
 
Regards, 
Samuel Wilkins 
 
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 20 April 2014 00:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Two of the few reasons I won't switch to Window-eyes as a primary
screen reader
 
So, I've been playing now with Window-eyes for about a week, and I must
say... I'm blown away!  I cannot get over how well it works on XP, 7, and
definitely especially! Windows 8!  All of this said however, some of you may
or may not know from other lists that I'm on, I am a professional
musician/audio engineer.  Most of my work is done on my mac with ProTools,
yes, however, there are two programs which in my field are absolutely
paramount! that I use.  there is no way around either.  Neither one can be
dropped, or I'd lose my job.  One of them is Rhapsody from Real Networks.
Currently, I am having to turn off W E, and fire up JAWS to use it, as the
interface is somewhat strange how things are laid out, thus, I use the
Rhapsody Blind scripts.  Basically they do things like helping me move focus
into the html content area of the program etc.  Before anyone asks can't you
use the mouse pointer in W E and just click somewhere in the area to focus
and turn on browse mode?  In theory? Yes.  the issue is that sometimes it
doesn't seem to work.  I can't even give you a senario where it won't work.
It seems to be randomly inconsistent.
 
The other program which is by far and away more of a must have is PG-Music's
Band in a Box 2012 Ultra Edition.  I have again, the jaws scripts that were
made by Peter Torpy, and they work phinominally, however, again, I hate
having to use the fish any more than absolutely necesary.  the issue with
Band in A Box is kind of the same wall we ran up against with Cakewalk
Sonar.  It's very very graphical for one thing.  The other thing is
depending on certain circumstances, the main chord sheet window visually
changes to accomidate whatever you're doing.  Also, though I don't know the
specifics of how this was done, he has it in the jfw scripts where pressing
left and right arrows keys, as well as up and down arrow keys will move you
from one section of a bar in your chord sheet to another.  for instance.
When I start out a song in the key of C mager, I land on the first field of
the chord sheet which is pronounced as, C: 1,1.  So this tells me, I'm on a
C chord, and I'm in bar 1, beat 1.  Then if I would right arrow, I'd go to
bar 1, beat 3.  One more right arrow and I'm on bar 2, beat 1, and again,
bar 2, beat 3.  Etc.  Without the scripts, I can't even arrow around the
chord sheet.  It's not a matter of you are actually moving, but Window-eyes
isn't telling you so.  It literally will not even move focus.  The mouse
pointer at this time is pretty much a forget it!  Don't even attempt!  I
wouldn't even begin! to know how to script or set this!  My guess is you'd
have to do both, and probably more on the scripting side.  It would be
pretty heavy work if I had to guess.  I'm not sure it would be all that
difficult, as much as just involved.  I'd be glad to pay someone to make me
custom W E scripts/sets, but, I couldn't do anything until the 3rd of next
month when I get my check.  Also we'd have to find a way to get the program
to you for testing.  the whole program, by the time you put all the real
tracks samples etc. together is around, may god be my witness, 80 gigs!  I
know what I just said!  I didn't say meggabyes.  Yes, I do know the
difference.  I'd better! seeing I have several computer certifications.  I
said exactly what I said:  80 gigs, or 80,000 megs!  Well, ok, fine,
technically a gig isn't 1000 megs, it's 1024 megs, so you're looking more
like, 81,920MB, but who's counting.  Obviously me, LOL!  The point is, you'd
probably have to send me a USB hard drive, let me load it, then mail it back
to you.  I dono how we'd deal with that, but we'd work something out.  This
is the main reason though that I won't, and can't, switch totally to W E.
If it wasn't for those 2 programs, I'd be W E all the way, and would never
ever look back.
 
Chris.
 

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