Hi Samuel,
I write apps, and I don't need Jaws scripts to see what they have done
in order to write a script like theirs. What I need is the software the
person is using, or to log onto a person's computer via Remote Access
and do testing. Having said this, I don't have time to help everybody.
However, what I do have is a powerful desire to turn everyone into an
app developer who can help themselves. Now, obviously, everyone doesn't
have the ability to do this. However, if you ever wanted to learn
programming in the Basic programming language, Chip Orange, a WE user,
has produced a wonderful tutorial series which teaches what you need to
know. This series is available here:
https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Developers/Interactive_Classes/
For a limited time, you can download the whole package from my DropBox
(750MB) here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kga6uebll8eq0if/Chip%20Orange%20interactive%20classes.zip
Food for thought and temptation,
Rod Hutton
On 4/20/14 3:24 AM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
This has brought to light something with which we can pick the brains
of all those app developers on the list. Would it not be possible to
modify Jaws scripts so that the programmes that are scripted with Jaws
(such as Rhapsody and Band in a Box) can work with Window-Eyes? I
know it will be necessary to know the jaws programming Language, but I
don't see why it can't be done, unless of course there is copy
protection.
Regards,
Samuel Wilkins
*From:*Christopher-Mark Gilland [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* 20 April 2014 00:03
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Two of the few reasons I won't switch to Window-eyes as a
primary screen reader
So, I've been playing now with Window-eyes for about a week, and I
must say... I'm blown away! I cannot get over how well it works on
XP, 7, and definitely especially! Windows 8! All of this said
however, some of you may or may not know from other lists that I'm on,
I am a professional musician/audio engineer. Most of my work is done
on my mac with ProTools, yes, however, there are two programs which in
my field are absolutely paramount! that I use. there is no way around
either. Neither one can be dropped, or I'd lose my job. One of them
is Rhapsody from Real Networks. Currently, I am having to turn off W
E, and fire up JAWS to use it, as the interface is somewhat strange
how things are laid out, thus, I use the Rhapsody Blind scripts.
Basically they do things like helping me move focus into the html
content area of the program etc. Before anyone asks can't you use the
mouse pointer in W E and just click somewhere in the area to focus and
turn on browse mode? In theory? Yes. the issue is that sometimes it
doesn't seem to work. I can't even give you a senario where it won't
work. It seems to be randomly inconsistent.
The other program which is by far and away more of a must have is
PG-Music's Band in a Box 2012 Ultra Edition. I have again, the jaws
scripts that were made by Peter Torpy, and they work phinominally,
however, again, I hate having to use the fish any more than absolutely
necesary. the issue with Band in A Box is kind of the same wall we
ran up against with Cakewalk Sonar. It's very very graphical for one
thing. The other thing is depending on certain circumstances, the
main chord sheet window visually changes to accomidate whatever you're
doing. Also, though I don't know the specifics of how this was done,
he has it in the jfw scripts where pressing left and right arrows
keys, as well as up and down arrow keys will move you from one section
of a bar in your chord sheet to another. for instance. When I start
out a song in the key of C mager, I land on the first field of the
chord sheet which is pronounced as, C: 1,1. So this tells me, I'm on a
C chord, and I'm in bar 1, beat 1. Then if I would right arrow, I'd
go to bar 1, beat 3. One more right arrow and I'm on bar 2, beat 1,
and again, bar 2, beat 3. Etc. Without the scripts, I can't even
arrow around the chord sheet. It's not a matter of you are actually
moving, but Window-eyes isn't telling you so. It literally will not
even move focus. The mouse pointer at this time is pretty much a
forget it! Don't even attempt! I wouldn't even begin! to know how to
script or set this! My guess is you'd have to do both, and probably
more on the scripting side. It would be pretty heavy work if I had to
guess. I'm not sure it would be all that difficult, as much as just
involved. I'd be glad to pay someone to make me custom W E
scripts/sets, but, I couldn't do anything until the 3rd of next month
when I get my check. Also we'd have to find a way to get the program
to you for testing. the whole program, by the time you put all the
real tracks samples etc. together is around, may god be my witness, 80
gigs! I know what I just said! I didn't say meggabyes. Yes, I do
know the difference. I'd better! seeing I have several computer
certifications. I said exactly what I said: 80 gigs, or 80,000
megs! Well, ok, fine, technically a gig isn't 1000 megs, it's 1024
megs, so you're looking more like, 81,920MB, but who's counting.
Obviously me, LOL! The point is, you'd probably have to send me a USB
hard drive, let me load it, then mail it back to you. I dono how we'd
deal with that, but we'd work something out. This is the main reason
though that I won't, and can't, switch totally to W E. If it wasn't
for those 2 programs, I'd be W E all the way, and would never ever
look back.
Chris.
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