Hi Robin and Everyone,
Another thing that I had to do with Win 7 is to make the folders so
the file structure wouldn't keep refreshing within a folder. Oh how I
hated that, and I have some friends who are still having trouble with that.
I did something in the folders right from the C drive, and I can't
remember what it was, but until I did that Windows 7 was a mess for
me, and I know I can do it again, if I have to. <smile> Just got to
figure it out, that's all. <smile>
I'm loving Windows 7 and Window-Eyes.
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 01:52 PM 4/25/2014, you wrote:
Thanks, Pat. That does makes sense. I just did in on the Win7
machine at work. I didn't realize that I was on small icons, not list view.
From: Pat Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:10 PM
To: Van Lant, Robin
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Understanding the file management dialog boxes in Win 7
and Win 8.1
Hi Robin,
You can set that to list view which I think is much easier.
I think you do an alt-V and arrow down to list view and then hit enter.
I can't stand tree views, but that's just my personal opinion. <smile>
I have my C drive set up so that Windows explorer shows only one
layer at a time, and if I have sub folders in a folder, it will only
open them up when I go into a folder. <smile>
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 11:20 AM 4/25/2014, you wrote:
Very helpful, Marc, especially about the address bar function.
I'll have to check again which view I am using. I noticed last
night that the layout in the listview area was unique, so I wonder
if I have some grouping function enabled. There were two columns,
upper left said Documents, and arrowing arrowing down said Pictures,
music, etc. I figured I was just in a straight listview for my
personal files. But then I realized that there was another column
to the right that started off with something like drives and
devices. And arrowing down from that listed the DVD drive and the
USB hard drive I had just plugged in. Here I was expecting to have
to hit enter on the Drives & devices folder to get to my USB hard
drive, but instead it was listed below the label within that tree
view. That's definitely not how I've seen things in previous
Windows versions, but now that I see the pattern, it made sense.
From: Marc Solomon [ mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Understanding the file management dialog boxes in Win 7 and Win 8.1
Hi Robin,
While the Open and Save dialogs in Windows 8.1 have more pieces and
parts when compared to their counterparts in earlier versions of
Windows, the good news is that you can still do things in the same
way once you get the hang of it and make a few adjustments. The
first tip I want to pass along is how to access and use the address
bar. You mentioned a pull down that you used to use, this combo box
has been replaced by the address bar. The shortcut to access the
address bar is Alt-D just like it is in Internet Explorer and other
web browsers. The address bar supports both auto completion and
suggestion lists. So, if you want to save a file or open a file
from your Documents library or your Desktop, just go to the address
bar and type the location followed by Enter. You can also type in
full file or folder paths if you are a bit more old school and know
the exact location of what you are looking for. If you are lazy
like me, I stop typing the location after I hear Window-Eyes
announce the suggestion list and just arrow to the correct location
and press Enter. This allows me to select locations with 3 or 4 key
presses. You can also press Alt-Down to drop down the address edit
combo box to review a list of its history. Overall, I have found
that the address bar can really make you more efficient once you
learn how to use it.
Keep in mind that the address bar is just one way of selecting a
location. As you mentioned, you can also use the tree view in the
navigation pane if that is easier for you. The tree view gives you
not only your standard files and folders but also favorites and
libraries which can be customized to include the folders you use most.
If you are in the oldest of the old school, you have memorized all
files paths and important folder paths from your days of using DOS
and just simply use the File Name edit combo box to type in the full
path of the file you want to open or the location and name for the
file you want to save.
Pressing Backspace while in the files and folders list box for the
selected location still moves you back in the hierarchy in the
current file path. One difference that I notice is that once you
reach the lowest level of the file path, for example, the root of C,
pressing backspace again takes you to Computer and pressing
Backspace again takes you to the Desktop. This is my experience in
Windows 8.1.
One other tip is to set the files and folder list box view to either
list or details and make sure grouping is turned off. Disabling the
Library Pane and Preview Pane can also simplify the dialog's user interface.
I hope you find this information helpful.
Regards,
Marc
From: "Van Lant, Robin"
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:43:10 +0000
I recently moved to Windows 7 and work and Windows 8.1 at home. I
had been on Windows XP in both places before that. I was very
accustomed to how to navigate through the Windows Explorer, Open and
Save dialog boxes in XP, but I'm struggling with how things are
organized and the interface with the buttons across the top of the
dialogs in Win 7 and Win 8.1. Can someone recommend a good summary
of how best to navigate? I'm using WE 8.4.
I first thought that it was best to 'declutter the screen by getting
rid of the navigation pane, but I just added that back, realizing
that there doesn't seem to be the look in drop down box at the top
of the dialog any more.
In the navigation pane, I'm not clear when I should go to libraries,
Favorites, etc.. There also is something called a Name split
button, so a single shift Tab doesn't' seem to take me right into
the file list view anymore, rather I have to do it twice. The other
day I was trying to get to my booksense to transfer files and I
really bumbled along to find that in Windows 8..1. At work, we
have network drives and I feel like I can't get to them nearly as
easily as I could in XP. I used to be able to backspace while in
the file list and it would move be backward through eh file
structure. Now it seems that I can do that maybe once, but then it
jumps be back to the level I was on. Believe me, I am creating
desktop shortcuts to folders I use most commonly, but at work there
are too many places I need to go, sometimes just once.
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