Thanks, Pat. That does makes sense. I just did in on the Win7
machine at work. I didn't realize that I was on small icons, not list
view.
*From:* Pat Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>]
*Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 12:10 PM
*To:* Van Lant, Robin
*Cc:* [email protected]
*Subject:* RE: Understanding the file management dialog boxes in Win
7 and Win 8.1
Hi Robin,
You can set that to list view which I think is much easier.
I think you do an alt-V and arrow down to list view and then hit enter.
I can't stand tree views, but that's just my personal opinion. <smile>
I have my C drive set up so that Windows explorer shows only one
layer at a time, and if I have sub folders in a folder, it will only
open them up when I go into a folder. <smile>
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians
4:13.
At 11:20 AM 4/25/2014, you wrote:
Very helpful, Marc, especially about the address bar function.
I'll have to check again which view I am using. I noticed last
night that the layout in the listview area was unique, so I
wonder if I have some grouping function enabled. There were two
columns, upper left said Documents, and arrowing arrowing down
said Pictures, music, etc. I figured I was just in a straight
listview for my personal files. But then I realized that there
was another column to the right that started off with something
like drives and devices. And arrowing down from that listed the
DVD drive and the USB hard drive I had just plugged in. Here I
was expecting to have to hit enter on the Drives & devices folder
to get to my USB hard drive, but instead it was listed below the
label within that tree view. That's definitely not how I've seen
things in previous Windows versions, but now that I see the
pattern, it made sense.
From: Marc Solomon
[<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 6:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Understanding the file management dialog boxes in Win 7
and Win 8.1
Hi Robin,
While the Open and Save dialogs in Windows 8.1 have more pieces
and parts when compared to their counterparts in earlier versions
of Windows, the good news is that you can still do things in the
same way once you get the hang of it and make a few adjustments.
The first tip I want to pass along is how to access and use the
address bar. You mentioned a pull down that you used to use, this
combo box has been replaced by the address bar. The shortcut to
access the address bar is Alt-D just like it is in Internet
Explorer and other web browsers. The address bar supports both
auto completion and suggestion lists. So, if you want to save a
file or open a file from your Documents library or your Desktop,
just go to the address bar and type the location followed by
Enter. You can also type in full file or folder paths if you are
a bit more old school and know the exact location of what you are
looking for. If you are lazy like me, I stop typing the location
after I hear Window-Eyes announce the suggestion list and just
arrow to the correct location and press Enter. This allows me to
select locations with 3 or 4 key presses. You can also press
Alt-Down to drop down the address edit combo box to review a list
of its history. Overall, I have found that the address bar can
really make you more efficient once you learn how to use it.
Keep in mind that the address bar is just one way of selecting a
location. As you mentioned, you can also use the tree view in
the navigation pane if that is easier for you. The tree view
gives you not only your standard files and folders but also
favorites and libraries which can be customized to include the
folders you use most.
If you are in the oldest of the old school, you have memorized
all files paths and important folder paths from your days of
using DOS and just simply use the File Name edit combo box to
type in the full path of the file you want to open or the
location and name for the file you want to save.
Pressing Backspace while in the files and folders list box for
the selected location still moves you back in the hierarchy in
the current file path. One difference that I notice is that once
you reach the lowest level of the file path, for example, the
root of C, pressing backspace again takes you to Computer and
pressing Backspace again takes you to the Desktop. This is my
experience in Windows 8.1.
One other tip is to set the files and folder list box view to
either list or details and make sure grouping is turned off.
Disabling the Library Pane and Preview Pane can also simplify the
dialog's user interface.
I hope you find this information helpful.
Regards,
Marc
From: "Van Lant, Robin" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 16:43:10 +0000
I recently moved to Windows 7 and work and Windows 8.1 at home. I
had been on Windows XP in both places before that. I was very
accustomed to how to navigate through the Windows Explorer, Open
and Save dialog boxes in XP, but I'm struggling with how things
are organized and the interface with the buttons across the top
of the dialogs in Win 7 and Win 8.1. Can someone recommend a
good summary of how best to navigate? I'm using WE 8.4.
I first thought that it was best to 'declutter the screen by
getting rid of the navigation pane, but I just added that back,
realizing that there doesn't seem to be the look in drop down box
at the top of the dialog any more.
In the navigation pane, I'm not clear when I should go to
libraries, Favorites, etc.. There also is something called a
Name split button, so a single shift Tab doesn't' seem to take me
right into the file list view anymore, rather I have to do it
twice. The other day I was trying to get to my booksense to
transfer files and I really bumbled along to find that in Windows
8..1. At work, we have network drives and I feel like I can't
get to them nearly as easily as I could in XP. I used to be able
to backspace while in the file list and it would move be backward
through eh file structure. Now it seems that I can do that maybe
once, but then it jumps be back to the level I was on. Believe
me, I am creating desktop shortcuts to folders I use most
commonly, but at work there are too many places I need to go,
sometimes just once.
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