How was the Sense Nav application developed if there is no English SDK? Does one exist but it is not public?
Just curious, in case someone knows and is willing to share. Thanks. Joseph Drenth R&D Software Engineer E: [email protected] | P: 215 822 4457 -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 7:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Hi, In order for a software product to be finalized, it needs to go through testing phases. BSP is not an exception. Something that worked with Book Sense might not work with BSP, so HIMS needs to test it. Cheers, Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Leake" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Date sent: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:07:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK yes but why is it taking so long? Cheers Paul [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Hi, As for that support, HIMS has better subroutines. All they need to do is port this functionality (from Book Sense) to BSP. The competetor has put a priority on this very issue... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Leake" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Date sent: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:08:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK also whoever gets doc x files working first will be on top too. a disgrace it's taken so long from both companies! Cheers Paul [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Yes, an 18-cell Apex is now shipping, price unknown. To keep this on-topic, I would be willing to sign, or even help plan, a petition to get an sdk out there for HIMS devices. Either HIMS or HW should do it at some point, and whoever does it first will definitely be on top, at least until the other company catches up. On 5/6/10, Stacey Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: There's an 18 cell unit? Where can I read more? I've received no announcements from hw today. I usually get those. HHMM don't know what happened. Have a blessed day, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley Eagleville, Tennessee. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Orozco" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK What's the shocking revelation? If you mean the 18-cell unit. That's not shocking. That's common sense. I didn't figure HW would stay at 32 cells. But if you know more, do share! *grin* I'm personally glad GW has stuck with a nice 32-cell compromise. Joe "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Hi, I think it would be great if we use the Petition Online site (just like the FS petition). Hint: It would not be easy to convince HIMS than HW, which has just announced a shocking revelation... Anyway, I'll assist in writing the petition. Thanks. Cheers, Joseph P.S. But first, I need to study... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drenth, Joe" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Date sent: Thu, 6 May 2010 08:57:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Yes, I'm all for it! There are so many apps that could be added to the Sense products' repertoire if we could have access to the SDK and a hook into the menu system to launch them. The embedded Visual C++ development environment from Microsoft is free, and all we'd need is the platform-specific SDK. We have two Windows CE 5 platforms at my job for which I've written and tested many, many applications, and it is not difficult if you know C++ and MFC once the SDK is plugged into the compiler. I can easily think of at least a dozen applications I'd like to create to use on my BSP, but it is all just daydreaming until HIMS agrees to work with us and make the SDK available. How do we go about petitioning HIMS? Have a great day, Joe Joseph Drenth R&D Software Engineer E: [email protected] | P: 215 822 4457 -----Original Message----- From: Joe Orozco [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Let's petition them. Even if people do not know how to contribute to development, the ones who can should be able to convince the others with the wealth of additions that could be had with a public SDK. Braille 'n Speak days of checkbook writing and graphing calculators? Joe "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 6:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK Hi Joe, Well, it all depends on when GW Micro will import the English version of the HIMS SDK. The Braille Sense family is managed by HIMS (ultimately) in South Korea. There is a Korean SDK (via Microsoft Foundation Classes) which is availible to programmers upon request (not a public SDK; just a set of tools for developers). I'd be happy to write an article on the HIMS Korean bulletin urging the company to consider exporting the SDK set to English. That way people here in United States can write useful programs for BSP. In addition, there exists so-called "Menu Manager" in orean ROM images. This allows a user to manage which applications appear on the Home (Program Menu) screen. This also allows third-party applications to be installed and removed as desired. Hope this helps. Cheers, From another Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Drenth, Joe" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Date sent: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:57:46 -0400 Subject: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus SDK I bought my Braille Sense Plus a couple of years ago with the hope that the English SDK would be available soon, and I really hope it still happens. I have been developing Windows CE applications using MFC for eleven years as part of my job, and I would love to help add to the popularity of the BSP (and family) by making games and other applications available for the platform. Is there a petition we could sign or a bribe we could pay to make it happen? *smile* Best regards. Joseph Drenth R&D Software Engineer E: [email protected] | P: 215 822 4457 -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus That, requires an SDK, which HIMS confirmed that it does exist in Korean. I read a bulletin post about a high school student (in South Korea) who wants to write a frogram for Braille Sense in C programming language. HIMS replied and said that it requires their SDK, which uses MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes), a part of Visual Studio ofin C++) in order for it to work. The true winner of this competition would be who will be the first to offer external programs - whether a translation, or a new creation... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected] To: <[email protected] Date sent: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:29:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [GWN] Braille Sense Plus I prefer trivia games or word games to the text adventure games on the BN. I couldn't get to first base with them. I would even enjoy Pinochle. I'd like to see the BrailleSense Plus offer trivia, word and card games like that. Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. 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