Hi Again,
Dennis has told me there are no issues so I will keep it as is for the
viewing the page in text or html form.
But I did add another one Dennis suggested, when on the list of links and
you want to read that story immediately I will ad another hotkey, Alt-R so you
can load the page, list it, and then go directly to the text of that page
locally, not on the web site. Thus doing only one hotkey action and not several.
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
Rick,
I have made 2 changes so far on the new program and one is the ability to
go from List view to Detailed view. At the moment you have detailed only.
This will allow you to see the URL's if you want to, but not really needed
so the default in the future is List mode.
Also, since this option is there I changed the Alt V hotkey to Alt T which
is the obvious way to go since that is the hotkey for a text file view.
If anyone has used it and find it prompting for a permission when not using
an XP computer let me know.
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
Hi Rick,
I may delete the uploaded version since there seems to be too many issues
and start over.
Your question is partially correct. What I do on first start up is have a
default web site that is not loaded immediately but can be gotten using several
different hotkeys.
To load the web page and list all it's links except script programs you use
Alt-L, or Alt-G, or Alt-D, or tab back to the button.
There is a default link or web page in the text field that is saved in the
.ini file. You could edit the .ini file if you wanted to to get your default
web page or entering it in the text field. Once entered in the text field you
either use the Alt-S hotkey or the file menu S option.
That default will now be saved in the .ini file for future default.
Now when hitting the Alt-G hotkey that page is not loaded into the list
because it allows you to go to that page and view it from that web site, thus
under the control of the web site scripts and such.
That list of links you see when loading a web page into the program you can
go down the list manually or just use the first letter of a link to search it
faster. I will add a find option in the future for any partial word search for
a given link.
The list you see is all the links of the page except java script and other
scripting language scripts...
Once on a link you can use only 4 hotkeys or file menu options and they are
Alt-L, Alt-G Alt-D, or Alt-E where Alt-E loads that link into the edit field
and remains there until changed, or you could edit it, then press the button or
use Alt-D to load it. Alt-D is a fast way to clicking on the button without
tabbing to it.
Now the Alt-W loads the page as a local web page, viewed still by your
browser but on your computer with all the web page java script and other
scripts deleted.
The alt-V opens up the saved text version of the same web page. This allows
you to look at text only and that allows any future breaking news or other
topics to be searched for inside a set timer to alert you of when that specific
item shows up or changes on that web page.
That feature is not installed yet for I do have many changes to make right
now and one is get rid of the link display for you can view that link by using
the Alt-E key as described above.
I still have to change my save file mode to include Unicode web pages for I
assumed all to be downloaded as text and they are not, especially European web
sites.
So a simple check and save accordingly has to be added this morning.
I hope this helps a little, the text file is the help menu option and is
also stored with the program as file number 3.
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
Hi Bruce: So you just link to the url the user enters or you have a url you
link to in your program when a user clicks a button?
That or you have a list of sites where they have news and then link to the
sites when a user picks a site from a list of available sites?
Does that sound right?
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "LB" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
Hi Rick
I go to the page you enter on the edit box line.
At the moment it is under the users control, but Dennis may have an
issue with global for I did not even think of it when making the package for
either I went by it fast or it was not there; probably went by it and when
not looking for it you can miss it.
So I will have to delete it and upload it again.
Figures I would do something wrong.
Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
Hi Bruce:
Are you parsing individual web pages or are you using the news providers RSS
Feeds?
Just curious since I mucked with both methods some time ago and each had
their own advantages and disadvantages.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "LB" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
Hi Dennis,
I have uploaded the beta version of Breaking News. It loads the entire
page, saves an html version in the default folder titled Breaking News
folder.
I have not got a list of web sites yet, just one web site at the moment.
It will display all links in the list view and you can view it either in a
local html file or text file.
I have no alerts yet for I want this part tested and improved before
moving to that part.
There are some web sites I can not look at because they do not load the
page until you trigger the page from a "OnLoad" event.
I probably could figger that one out eventually but that is the only
pain at the moment.
but it can load HLNTV or CNN or Fox News without any problems.
It seems to be OK going to any web site on the link list displayed in
the list view.
It is called BreakingNews and can be downloaded now for testing or
feedback.
Bruce
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
I was thinking of having the category choices as an option. that's
correct that was what I was thinking. If it could also show the top
headlines in general that would be good.
On 2/2/2014 11:46 PM, LB wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> I guess you want to pick a category and get all stories under that
> category, correct?
>
> I have a running program that loads the page you select, that file is
> also saved as an HTML file inside the User folder and run from there.
> I now have to get the list filled for choices and such, with timers
> for each or all depending on what you want and how often, checking for
> changes.
> Bruce
>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
>
>
> sounds good I look forward to it. maybe have a idea to read all the
> stories under politics as an example or sports.
>
> On 1/31/2014 12:38 PM, LB wrote:
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> On the CNN web site it has "Breaking News" on the site and what I
>> am going to do is extract that link for breaking news for it has a class
>> for it and will post that along with the link associated to it.
>> Now the app when done will have that alert and an option to display
>> the CNN page but with only links and such and none of the other garbage
>> for I will sort out all the display formats and just post links and there
>> associated text messages.
>>
>> I am going to experiment with some Java Script stuff listed there
>> but will leave all of that out for now and see if the the extraction is
>> enough for those that want instant news and the page stripped of all it's
>> format.
>>
>> If any other ideas and feedback just let me know and I will see
>> what options are available. For I will also place the actual page into
>> the list but can be slow in loading for all the images, icons and stuff
>> they want to display, including ads which are easy to sort out of the
>> list.
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Bruce
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
>>
>>
>> Hi Chip,
>> Thanks, I had looked at the CNN.com for I noticed a different
>> break-out from before because Headline news went another way, so I have
>> the page for breaking news.
>> I will look at it tonight along with what you sent.
>>
>> Thanks, Bruce
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:49 PM
>> Subject: RE: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
>>
>>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> Below are the URI's for the various CNN RSS XML files in categories I
>> thought were of general interest; each address is the list of headlines
>> for
>> that category:
>>
>> http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_us.rss
>> http://rss.cnn.com/rss/money_latest.rss
>> http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_tech.rss
>> http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_health.rss
>>
>> hth,
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LB [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
>>
>> OK Dennis,
>> I will look at it and see what I can do. First I will make an app
>> to
>> capture the html and go from there.
>> I will get back with you on it.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
>>
>>
>> Bruce I was referring to the CNN app idea. I think it's a good one.
>>
>> On 1/30/2014 3:53 PM, LB wrote:
>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: an idea for an app: CNN headlines
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>
>>> Are you talking about the CNN idea or just apps in general?
>>>
>>> I would like to do something like this but too many things
>>> have
>> prevented me from even getting started. I am always on the fly and do not
>> even read entire emails, thus missing the point when it is not in the
>> first
>> 5 or so lines.
>>> The other reason is too many viruses out there and I even got
>>> burnt
>> by the federal government which installed spy ware on there FTC sight,
>> which
>> was a recently government created web site...NSA issues.
>>>
>>> The discussion could first start with what attracks most people,
>>> web
>> pages or programs for on this blog it is hit and miss app writers and not
>> those interested in apps.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can get a discussion going.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to see this done.
>>>
>>> On 1/30/2014 8:24 AM, Chip Orange wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes I get emails from people who would like to write an app (to
>>>> help learn scripting better with, or as a project they can get
>>>> interested in), and they're looking for suggestions. So, I was hoping
>>>> we all could post our suggestions to the scripting and apps list when
>>>> we
>>>> thought of such things, and if someone decided to take up an idea, I'd
>>>> hope they'd answer such a post to let others know someone else was
>>>> already working on that idea (we had a wiki entry at one time as a
>>>> place
>>>> for people to list their plans but alas .).
>>>>
>>>> Well, this idea comes as a result of various people asking me "have you
>>>> heard ." and then some recent news item. I'd like to say yes, I've
>>>> always heard, but I don't usually have the time to go keep checking CNN
>>>> (or even an RSS aggregator).
>>>>
>>>> My idea is that I see CNN has their headlines in various categories
>>>> listed in an XML RSS file, which they update from time to time. I was
>>>> thinking it would be nice if, as they added some new headline in a
>>>> category you had marked as being of interest to you, your app (which
>>>> would check say once every 5 minutes) could either speak the headline,
>>>> or bring up the headline in a message box? Either way, perhaps you'd
>>>> have a hotkey which would bring up the headlines and allow you to jump
>>>> to the CNN page for a given headline.
>>>>
>>>> So, that's my idea (which I don't have time for because I'm not
>>>> finishing my other ideas). Others are free to comment on it or modify
>>>> it until, in some form, it catches someone's interest.
>>>>
>>>> It may not be the best app idea, but maybe just discussing app ideas
>>>> here will help us create one which is the best app idea (after all,
>>>> it's
>>>> really (to me) where WE outshines all other competition, in that it's
>>>> so
>>>> easy to create an app).
>>>>
>>>> Chip
>>>>
>>>
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