Yes there is, Education

On Apr 3, 10:05 pm, Logan <[email protected]> wrote:
> "A free society is only free when its citizens do the right thing and
> are always civil to each other."
> "We should also all concerned and helpful to our neighbors..."
>
> Unfortunately this has never been the case.  We should be using
> government to protect society from the morally reprehensible.  Crime -> Laws 
> -> Punishment.  We do not do this correctly though because
>
> government is no longer powered by the people for the people.  Its a
> flawed system.
>
> Its great that Donna is doing what she is doing.  It will have an
> impact though it may be small.  Like most things that involve the
> political system I fear that there will never be an answer or that
> there will never be the means to finally end the problem.
>
> Based on the quote above we do not live in a "free society."
>
> On Apr 3, 5:37 pm, Itchn2go-Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Logan,
> > You also cannot legislate personal responsibility or morality.
>
> > We also do not need cameras monitoring us.
>
> > A free society is only free when its citizens do the right thing and are 
> > always civil to each other. When we stop doing this the answer becomes more 
> > government and we get what we deserve.
>
> > if we keep our neighborhoods clean and everyone does the same locally we 
> > will have a impact so Donna is taking the lead which is great. We should 
> > also all concerned and helpful to our neighbors and local charities 
> > therefore we have people taking care of each other instead of big brother 
> > taking care of us.
>
> > A government big enough to give and control everything will take and 
> > control everything without your consent.
>
> > No offense taken.
> > Ed
>
> > "Logan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >Ed your reply makes no sense (no offense).  We cannot enforce morality
> > >and personal responsibility.  The best we can do is make suggestions.
> > >However, there are laws to protect the environment from litter and
> > >there are agencies that can punish offenders.  Should we not push for
> > >better enforcement and stricter penalties?  Im not giving up my
> > >responsibility but I also cannot take a baseball bat to a litter-bug.
> > >Big Brother has a job to do and it needs to be done.
>
> > >On Apr 3, 3:53 pm, "Itchn2go - Ed" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Ahhh Big Brother to the rescue - give up on personal responsibility - the
> > >> New America.
>
> > >> People in Russia will be more free.
>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> > >> > Of
> > >> > Sam Quattrocchi
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:20 PM
> > >> > To: [email protected]
> > >> > Subject: RE: [Gyros: 15185] Yea Donna!
>
> > >> > I really appreciate Donna taking action on the NC litter problem and 
> > >> > for
> > >> > her
> > >> > appeal to the N&O.  Even though I have lived here for many years now, I
> > >> > still react bitterly to the litter along the NC roads when I walk, jog 
> > >> > or
> > >> > ride.  When we first moved here it was the first thing we noticed -
> > >> > beautiful vegetation along with tons of trash.  We never experienced 
> > >> > that
> > >> > level of road trash in my home state of Ohio.
>
> > >> > Bottom line, I've concluded that North Carolinians are pigs and there's
> > >> > not
> > >> > much any one can do about the problem though many have tried.  I've 
> > >> > been
> > >> > here 26 years and the problem has only gotten worse.
>
> > >> > I'm happy to help clean up the roads with the Gyros, but it only makes 
> > >> > a
> > >> > very small dent in this enormous problem.  It almost makes me wish for
> > >> > "big
> > >> > brother" where roadside cameras record the license plate of those that
> > >> > throw
> > >> > trash out their windows or have trash fall out of their truck beds as 
> > >> > they
> > >> > ride along.  Of course we would need stiff fines for those that are
> > >> > caught.
>
> > >> > Sam Quattrocchi
>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> > >> > Of
> > >> > [email protected]
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:28 PM
> > >> > To: North Raleigh Cyclists (Gyros)
> > >> > Subject: [Gyros: 15181] Yea Donna!
>
> > >> > Just thought I'd share this with everyone - as not everyone gets the
> > >> > Raleigh
> > >> > News and Observer newspaper.
>
> > >> >http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/04/03/418987/more-and-more.html
>
> > >> > If this isn't "our" Donna Webster, then I apologize in advance.
>
> > >> > jerry
> > >> > a Gyro wannabe with not enough desire/effort to ride above 15mph
> > >> >        //  Jerry Heyman           | "Congress does not draw to its 
> > >> > halls
> > >> >       //   Amiga Forever :-)      | those who love liberty, it draws 
> > >> > those
> > >> >   \\ //    heymanj at acm dot org | who love power." Judge Andrew
> > >> > Napolitano
> > >> >    \X/    http://www.hobbeshollow.com
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