Oh, I definitely will, and have! That's just the one I had on hand at the 
moment.

Natalie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: monica spence 
  To: Historical Costume 
  Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help


  Hi Natalie--
  There are references that I have found that say Eleonora's steel corsets
  were made by Master Lorenzo (I think that was his name...) who was Cosimo's
  cuirassier (armor maker). She wanted these to give her support so she could
  make public appearances with Cosimo.

  My opinion about Norris: While he was a wonderful source for his time, much
  has been written since then. If you need to look at his work, follow it up
  with work from more modern scholars. It takes some work to do it, but it is
  out there.
  Monica





  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Natalie
  Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:57 PM
  To: Historical Costume
  Subject: Re: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help


  >> If you look at the text of Janet Arnold's book she says something about
  > the
  >> velvet bodice overlapping in the front. Eleonora had been suffering from
  > TB
  >> on and off, getting progressively worse , since 1549/ 50 until her death.
  > In
  >> the early stages she wore a taffeta covered steel corset (not recommended
  >> for the modern woman).
  >
  > Again I'm curious about this. Is this mentioend in the new Moda di Firenze
  > book as well? Would this have been for medicinal reasons? Faure did
  > recommend splinting body parts with metal for certain diseases. A definite
  > link between Eleanora's wasting disease (as it would probably have been
  > called) and needing a metal corset would help in this area of research.

  I know not many like Norris, but I'm almost positive I've seen this in other
  places... I just can't find it at the moment. Anyway, in Tudor Costume and
  Fashion  in the part about corsets, he has a drawing, copied from an
  existing iron corset from about 1530. He writes a whole paragraph on it, but
  basically says that these were somewhat common in England from 1533 to the
  1580's, being made from iron and covered with soft leather, silk, or other
  materials.they were hinged on one side and fastened by hook and/or bolts. He
  says they were first made by Italians and Catherine de' Medici brought some
  in her trousseau when she came to France in 1533.

  So... take it with a grain of salt, it coming from Norris, but like I said,
  I am almost positive I've seen this elsewhere. I'm not sure if your question
  about the metal corset was about Eleanora specifically, or the corsets in
  general, but I hope that helps!

  Natalie
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