Suzi is correct. Those trousers are bogus and relatively modern,
basically combining broadfall front 18th century overalls
(panataloons) with a non-correct lace up front. Probably somebody
made a pair of overalls like this with a broadfall front, but I don't
think I've ever seen them depicted. Before 1800 "trousers" were
mainly worn by ship's crews and were nothing like these, except
possibly for the drawstring. Trousers ended at or right below the
knee and were very wide legged. Roman soldiers and other Europeans
wore very similar type clothing in cold weather in Imperial times.
There may be a continuous link of usage somewhere between 400 AD and
1500 AD other than at sea, but probably not. Even the sailor
connection may not be unbroken. Also, note the belt loops, a 20th
century development, on the front.
What we call trousers and pants today are actually descended from
American military overalls introduced at the end of the colonial
period prior to the American Revolution. That's basically what these
people are selling, but with the incorrect lace front under the fall.
Ed Walton
Lost Battalions Military Reproductions
http://www.lostbattalions.com
Walton & Taylor Mercantile
http://www.waltontaylor. com
On Jul 24, 2006, at 6:20 AM, Suzi Clarke wrote:
At 11:56 24/07/2006, you wrote:
Hi,
I've never been much interested in trousers in the middle ages,
so I know only a few about it. I'm now talking about the clothing
of peasants - I've recently seen a picture of a complicated
fastening system which should have been historically accurate.
Here it is:
http://drakkaria.com/obchod/fotky/341b.jpg
http://drakkaria.com/obchod/fotky/2021b.jpg
I have absolutely no clue whether it is right or wrong. Does
someone know? What kind of fastening was used then?
Thanks, Zuzana
It is probable that the trousers in the pictures are very late
18th or early 19th century. I have never seen men's trousers laced
up the front, and I wonder if these are in fact nor original, but a
reproduction. The pairs in the first picture have similar
fastenings to original trousers/trowsers I have seen from about
1815, although I have never seen them with draw strings.Where do
the pictures come from? That might help to date them.
Incidentally, I would have said that trousers, as we recognise them
today, were not much worn in medieval times. They mostly wore hose,
either two separate legs tied to a belt or to the doublet, or a
pair of joined hose, fastened in the same way. These were
frequently cut on the cross in order to make them fit fairly tightly.
Suzi
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