I think shantung is fewer slubs and finer ones than dupioni, but it is
more densely wovern(more threads per inch), which would make the fabric
heavier in weight 

Cindy Abel

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Thanks very much!!

If I understood right, shantung is 29mm and douppioni 19mm, which means
that shantung is much heavier? This makes me a bit confused as from the
definitions I understood that Shantung might be the finer (less slubs) =
and lighter one?



Chiara Francesca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good Morning
Zuzana!

Here is an excerpt of an article series that I recently started called
"Straight from the Corset". I think it answers your question about
silks. If you want to see the whole article let me know. :)

Silk is measured by weight either by grams or by momme (mm). 28 grams =
1 ounce. 8 momme = 1 oz. In determining the right silk for your
purposes, silk under 20 momme is considered lightweight, 20 to 28 is
considered medium weight and anything above that is considered
heavyweight.

Shantung
Once made from hand-reeled tussah silk, today's shantung is usually made
with cultivated silk warp yarns and heavier douppioni filling yarns.
Depending on the filling yarn, shantung may be lustrous or dull. It has
a firm, semi-crisp hand and tends to ravel, so avoid close-fitting
styles. It can be machine washed on gentle and dried on low. 29 mm

Douppioni
Douppioni is a plain-weave fabric with slubbed ribs. It has a stiff,
taffeta-like hand and is usually dyed in bright colors. Douppioni is
often made into elegant flowy gowns that are not fitted or for
semi-fitted doublets and garments because the fabric doesn't stand up
well to stress and ravels easily. Dry cleaning recommended. 19mm.

For a detailed chart go to
http://www.classactfabrics.com/silk/silk_fabric.htm

For further reading go find: Mola, Luca. The Silk Industry in
Renaissance Venice. Baltimore: The Johns Hopkins University Press. 2000.

My source was the above book. :)

Chiara Francesca


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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:19 AM
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Subject: [h-cost] difference between dupioni and shantung

Hi everyone,

I've spent the past few days searching on the internet and I've been
asking as many people as I met and still can't get the difference
between silk shantung and silk dupioni. I often ask my sister in China
to buy me some shantung, but once she gets a very fine fabric with
almost no slubs and another day she gets one with a rougher texture and
more visible slubs. I didn't know how to call these two, so I started to
search for such sorts of silk fabric that would match the two fabrics,
and I got shantung and dupioni. But alas, sources say different
definitions, one says the contrary of the other, leaving me really
puzzled... 

Does anyone know something about that? Pictures are really welcome...

       
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