I love Frog closures too but they don't seem to be standard on English
Elizabethans.  However, there is a painting of Elizabeth in a white dress
with frogs, labeled "Polish Dress" and one of the fameous ones where she is
much older, holding gloves, the dress of a light color with orange frogging
(?).  Then there is one of the Russian ambassadors.  I believe they are of
Chinese origin, but spread west and north by our pre-16th Century date.

Gadget!?  From Folkwear?  Avarice rears its expensive head.

Wanda

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of S Young
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:47 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan frog closures
>
>
> I always thought frog closures were a chinese invention? Learn
> something new
> everyday!
>
> Sidney
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Julie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I made a coat dress/Spanish Surcoat which has frogs up the whole front
> > opening.  I'm trying to get documentation on the use of frogs
> in Elizabethan
> > England.  There are a couple of pictures in Janet Arnold.  Does
> anyone have
> > some links to either portraits or other primary type docs showing use of
> > frogs and/or how the specific ones shown were tied?
> >
> > I'm using some very clever doo dads carried by FolkWear for tying these
> > frogs.  Much easier than just on a macrame board.  I can't find period
> > pictures of exactly what I'm doing, but will settle for close <G>.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Julie in Ramona (San Diego)
> >
> >
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