At 02:46 AM 5/1/2008, you wrote:
>I always thought frog closures were a chinese invention? Learn 
>something new everyday!

 From the little research I can do with my slowly growing Chinese 
costuming library, I see ties closing clothing until the 16th c. or 
so.  Even then, it's a simple monkey fist and loop.  I am sure, that 
your fancy loops and twists of the modern frog are either Russian or 
Polish (or surrounds) in origin.  The Chinese seem to prefer a simple 
button and loop type.

They might have come west, but truly are very late, relatively speaking.

Genie

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