> least one figure in the Herod scene has a close front bodice and if
> you haven't already started the bodice that might be a way to go.
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/o/ordonez/d_felipe.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/j/juan/1/lazarus2.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/j/juan/1/herodias.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/b/borgona/ladyhare.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/gallego/catholic.html
> Those are examples from 1490-1515 with the closed front and no hoops.
> I think the bust portrait you have (also on WGA and by Juan de
> Flandres) is of a no hooped sort too.
>

Thanks for the help. What really caught my eye was the portrait of
Juana la Loca. I looked for a bodice in the 1490s that carried out
that theme. I have the kirtle underneath. The bodice is cut out and
the eyes bought for the laces. I have a lot of embroidery throughout.
I have most of my good gowns with closed bodices, lacing in the back,
side, front. I wanted something I had nothing of for some special silk
a friend brought me back from China. I have had to study completely
new cuts and ideas for this. I love the ideas.
-- 
Aspasia Moonwind
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