I usually just lurk on this list and occasionally ask questions or respond.  My 
question is when making a dress like this one with a close front bodice, where 
do you put the lacing?  I've read if it's english that it goes in the back, but 
haven't been able to confirm or deny this.  Also, if you were doing a spanish 
one, where would the lacing go?  Did they always use lacing in this period or 
did they also use hookand eye, and if so where did they use it.Lllynn

Bonnie Booker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  > least one figure in the Herod scene 
has a close front bodice and if
> you haven't already started the bodice that might be a way to go.
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/o/ordonez/d_felipe.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/j/juan/1/lazarus2.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/j/juan/1/herodias.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/b/borgona/ladyhare.html
> http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/gallego/catholic.html
> Those are examples from 1490-1515 with the closed front and no hoops.
> I think the bust portrait you have (also on WGA and by Juan de
> Flandres) is of a no hooped sort too.
>

Thanks for the help. What really caught my eye was the portrait of
Juana la Loca. I looked for a bodice in the 1490s that carried out
that theme. I have the kirtle underneath. The bodice is cut out and
the eyes bought for the laces. I have a lot of embroidery throughout.
I have most of my good gowns with closed bodices, lacing in the back,
side, front. I wanted something I had nothing of for some special silk
a friend brought me back from China. I have had to study completely
new cuts and ideas for this. I love the ideas.
-- 
Aspasia Moonwind
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