By the way here is to new to me pictures by Giovanni Cariani http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Giovanni_Cariani_005.jpg http://tinyurl.com/a8w8zk
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Giovanni_Cariani_004.jpg The seduction picture looks as if it could be either a. fringe but it looks to stiff. b. separate piece sleeve cap that has the edge snipped and bound. c. sleeve cap created from the upper portion of the main sleeve. Think reverse seam where the pleated flap is turned out and the edge it bound. De -----Original Message----- Greetings to the list, I have spent too much time looking at paintings today and have been entranced by this one in particular. The dress is begging to be made someday, in my mind. http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/CARIANISeduction.JPG These sleeves look like the sleeve head has been embroidered and then cartridge pleated, also at the cuff and then cartridge pleated near the elbow area. Am I interpreting this correctly? And I am thinking the bodice is with the same treatment but is flat, yes? Thanks for any input to my question. Lyonet lurker 99.9% of the time _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
