On Wednesday 31 December 2008 2:33:42 am otsisto wrote:

[I said: how can you tell there was a shift below the camisia?  You replied:]
>
> The white area has two shades of white. The upper section of white
> indicates that the camicia is of a sheer material and that the lower white
> section indicates that there is a lining, it is probably a shift and most
> likely sleeveless or straps. Also the closing area seems to look like there
> might be two layers. This shift/lining may have also been a means of
> support but that is a theory.

I thought the thinner looking area was a trimming, but since such trimmings 
were usually embroidered or made of lace, it's more likely that you're right 
and the transparency difference indicates an underlying undergarment of some 
kind.

I find that interesting.  I know that people (such as Oonagh) have theorized 
that late period Italian gowns were worn with corsets, and that there had to 
be either a second shift underneath the corset, or, in the alternative, that 
the camisia lay under the corset and a false front imitating a camisia was 
pinned on top, to show underneath the lacing and hide the corset.  However, 
I'd never thought that the gowns of the 1530s (such as the one under 
discussion seemed to be) particularly looked as though they were worn with a 
corset.

Thanks for your explanation.
-- 
Cathy Raymond <[email protected]>

"If someone offers you a dead dog for lunch, you don't stick around for the 
pudding." --Ben "Yahtzee" Crenshaw


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