Is the stronger white line at the base some kind of support? I wonder how much this one weighs!! Beautiful in it's curved shapes but way more than I'd want to wear.
Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:29:05 +1000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [h-cost] stitching on ruffs [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] > > Until recently I had thought that the figure-of-eight ruffs were never > stitched to hold the shape, but last week I found a portrait in a > current Sotherby's catalogue for a sale of Old Master and early British > paintings. > This is the link to the catalogue: > http://www.sothebys.com/app/paddleReg/paddlereg.do?dispatch=eventDetails > &event_id=29138 > > and the particular painting is: > http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159527660 > > The ruff is formed with a lattice effect, intersecting 4 times, and > there is a pearl at every intersection, with a group of 3 pearls at the > top and bottom edge. I think the pearls are stitched on, rather than > representing pin-heads, especially given the groups of pearls at top and > bottom. It would be a nightmare to reset after washing. > > I have never seen anything similar - has anyone else? > Suzi, is this similar to the one you referred to. > > Needless to say I have downloaded it for future reference. > > Annette Wilson > > ------------------------------------------------- > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:39:41 +0200 > From: Hanna Zickermann <[email protected]> > Subject: [h-cost] Stitching on ruffs > To: Historical Costume <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hello, > > has anyone ever seen a ruff that really had the stitching along the > outer edge to keep the "8"s in shape? "Period Costume for Stage and > Screen" even suggests embellishing the ruff with beads on top of these > stitches, but I feel they are just a theatrical neccessity as the ruffs > are not properly starched and must keep their shapes in nylon material. > Or is there evidence that these stitches would have been used as a > decorative feature as well and that they are documentable? > > Thank you, > Hanna > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:55:26 +0100 > From: Suzi Clarke <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Stitching on ruffs > To: Historical Costume <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 19:39 09/04/2009, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >has anyone ever seen a ruff that really had the stitching along the > >outer edge to keep the "8"s in shape? "Period Costume for Stage and > >Screen" even suggests embellishing the ruff with beads on top of these > >stitches, but I feel they are just a theatrical neccessity as the ruffs > > >are not properly starched and must keep their shapes in nylon material. > >Or is there evidence that these stitches would have been used as a > >decorative feature as well and that they are documentable? > > I have seen pictures of ruffs where the "8"s are apparently held > together, probably with wax (see Janet Arnold). I am sure I also have a > photo of a ruff held with red beads - I'll have to go and look for that > though - my library is not next to the computer! > > Suzi > > > > > > ------ > If you have received this transmission in error please notify us immediately > by return e-mail and delete all copies. If this e-mail or any attachments > have been sent to you in error, that error does not constitute waiver of any > confidentiality, privilege or copyright in respect of information in the > e-mail or attachments. > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ------ > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
