If you zoom in on it, you can see that there is clearly a separate supporter below the ruff itself. The supporter has the lower row of pearl clusters attached to it, not to the ruff. The lower pearl clusters do not match up with the loops of the ruff, whereas the clusters on top do. While the single pearls at the junctions in the ruff could be either sewn on or on pin heads, the pearl clusters around the top of the ruff sure look like they are be sewn on as I don't see any trace of pins up there. Of course, there's no trace of pins in the middle either, but in this instance, I would opt for pinheads in the middle just for ease of ironing. If you carefully trace the lines, you'll note that the fabric is just one continuous single ruffle which has been pinned twice (creating that little box shape) rather than once in the middle.
Ginni Morgan >>> Becky Rautine <[email protected]> 4/13/09 5:32 PM >>> Is the stronger white line at the base some kind of support? I wonder how much this one weighs!! Beautiful in it's curved shapes but way more than I'd want to wear. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:29:05 +1000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [h-cost] stitching on ruffs [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] > > Until recently I had thought that the figure-of-eight ruffs were never > stitched to hold the shape, but last week I found a portrait in a > current Sotherby's catalogue for a sale of Old Master and early British > paintings. > This is the link to the catalogue: > http://www.sothebys.com/app/paddleReg/paddlereg.do?dispatch=eventDetails > &event_id=29138 > > and the particular painting is: > http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159527660 > > The ruff is formed with a lattice effect, intersecting 4 times, and > there is a pearl at every intersection, with a group of 3 pearls at the > top and bottom edge. I think the pearls are stitched on, rather than > representing pin-heads, especially given the groups of pearls at top and > bottom. It would be a nightmare to reset after washing. > > I have never seen anything similar - has anyone else? > Suzi, is this similar to the one you referred to. > > Needless to say I have downloaded it for future reference. > > Annette Wilson > > ------------------------------------------------- > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:39:41 +0200 > From: Hanna Zickermann <[email protected]> > Subject: [h-cost] Stitching on ruffs > To: Historical Costume <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hello, > > has anyone ever seen a ruff that really had the stitching along the > outer edge to keep the "8"s in shape? "Period Costume for Stage and > Screen" even suggests embellishing the ruff with beads on top of these > stitches, but I feel they are just a theatrical neccessity as the ruffs > are not properly starched and must keep their shapes in nylon material. > Or is there evidence that these stitches would have been used as a > decorative feature as well and that they are documentable? > > Thank you, > Hanna > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:55:26 +0100 > From: Suzi Clarke <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Stitching on ruffs > To: Historical Costume <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 19:39 09/04/2009, you wrote: > >Hello, > > > >has anyone ever seen a ruff that really had the stitching along the > >outer edge to keep the "8"s in shape? "Period Costume for Stage and > >Screen" even suggests embellishing the ruff with beads on top of these > >stitches, but I feel they are just a theatrical neccessity as the ruffs > > >are not properly starched and must keep their shapes in nylon material. > >Or is there evidence that these stitches would have been used as a > >decorative feature as well and that they are documentable? > > I have seen pictures of ruffs where the "8"s are apparently held > together, probably with wax (see Janet Arnold). I am sure I also have a > photo of a ruff held with red beads - I'll have to go and look for that > though - my library is not next to the computer! > > Suzi > > > > > > ------ > If you have received this transmission in error please notify us immediately > by return e-mail and delete all copies. If this e-mail or any attachments > have been sent to you in error, that error does not constitute waiver of any > confidentiality, privilege or copyright in respect of information in the > e-mail or attachments. > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > ------ > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
