Thanks so much for the reference.  I'm collecting travelers' accounts and that 
sounds like a great one.

Ann Wass


-----Original Message-----
From: Hope Greenberg <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 2:45 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?


The question of regional variations is fascinating. On the off chance that 
Google Books might provide some clues I went looking for Antwerp 1817. As a 
location and time so close to, and soon after, Waterloo it seemed reasonable to 
suppose that there might be something written by someone English. I came across 
this: 
 
Henry Smithers "Observations made during a tour in 1816 and 1817 through that 
part of the Netherlands which comprises Osten, Bruges, Ghent, Brussels, 
Malines, and Antwerp..." ( 
 
While he doesn't help with the question of trains, he did have some things to 
say that I thought might amuse this group: 
 
"The females are cleanly and healthy, but to a traveller they exhibit a most 
grotesque appearance ; among the middling or lower classes, hats or bonnets are 
not worn, but large scarfs black or coloured, and most ponderous ear-rings, 
suspended from each ear, and exceeded in size and Weight only by those of the 
natives of Ava and Peru in the east, where the holes in the ears are made when 
the female is young, and when increased to the size of a dollar, earrings are 
fitted thereto. « 
 
It was judiciously remarked by an intelligent American, that when he first 
landed in England, the similarity of language, of habits, and manners to 'those 
of his own country, was such, that he forgot the distance which intervened ; 
but when he crossed from the shores of Britain to Ostend, in a few hours only, 
he was struck with such an entire contrast in dress, food and costume, as 
induced him to think he had been landed in some new world." 
 
and another delightful observation, especially considering how much vegetation 
appears on English lady's bonnets at this time: 
 
"Artificial flowers are made here to very great perfection—many of them so 
correctly immitate nature both in flower and foliage, that even on close 
inspection the eye will be sometimes deceived. The Belgian Ladies are fond of 
this sort of ornament in their hats and bonnets, and when judiciously placed it 
is elegant, but it is worn here in such considerable quantities, and sometimes 
so ill chosen as to produce a contrary effect." 
 
[email protected] wrote: 
> > In a message dated 3/4/2010 5:55:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > 
> > [email protected] writes: 
> 
> in 1817, but it's hard to imagine that anyone > would have a train on any 
> gown by that time 
> 
> 
> Rosalie Stier Calvert, who lived in Prince George's County, Maryland, > 
> received clothing from her sister in Antwerp for her daughter's introduction 
> > into society in 1817. I've not checked the original French of her letter, > 
> but The English translation is that Rosalie regrets that her full-dress blue 
> > gown is trailing, as no one was wearing them like that here. I believe > 
> that means it has a train, and they must still have been fashionable on the > 
> Continent at that time. > > Ann Wass 
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