+1 from me.

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Rich Bowen

On Apr 15, 2009, at 16:47, Chris Meller <[email protected]> wrote:

> ASF incubation seems to offer a number of potential benefits and no  
> obvious detriments, so I'll go +1.
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Chris J. Davis  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> We need to take a vote, one that is open to the community. If the  
> outcome of that vote is to move forward with incubation then we need  
> to write a proposal thingy as outlined in the How link that skippy  
> provided.
>
> Once we have the proposal ready we submit it to the ASF and wait for  
> them to approve us.
>
> So, I will call the vote. Since this is an extremely important  
> decision in the life of our community I would suggest a 36 hour  
> window for voting. As with all votes the only binding votes are  
> those of the PMC, but all community members are encouraged to vote  
> so that we (the PMC) can know how you feel. Knowing this will help  
> us make an informed decision.
>
> Do I have +1's from the PMC for opening the vote?
>
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Chris Meller wrote:
>
>> So we all seem to be generally in favor of incubation and unsure of  
>> the potential value of an LLC... Where do we go from here?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Scott Merrill <[email protected]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Chris Meller <[email protected] 
>> > wrote:
>> > I didn't much follow the LLC discussion, but what value would  
>> that in itself
>> > provide? It's not as if the LLC would have a bank account filled  
>> with monies
>> > to pull from, so someone (or multiple someones) would still end  
>> up paying
>> > for things, even if they were under the "umbrella" of the LLC.
>>
>> In theory, if someone were to approach Habari saying "You stole all
>> the code from proprietary Secret Project X", we would have a hard  
>> time
>> defending ourselves. An LLC would, in theory, be able to better  
>> retain
>> legal counsel and execute a defense.
>>
>> I'm sure there are other benefits, but the above is what I've
>> understood to be one of the biggest.
>>
>> > Can someone review the conditions / qualifications / etc. for ASF  
>> incubation
>> > again, so we're all clear on what would be required?
>>
>> How:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>
>> Who:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ 
>> Roles_and_Responsibilities.html
>>
>> When:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html
>>
>> Entry Guides:
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html
>>
>> I'm generally agreeable to the idea of incubation. Some small pain in
>> transition and learning new tools would be a fair trade in exchange
>> for being relieved of infrastructure responsibility, improved
>> marketing capacity, and an increased sense of legitimacy in the eyes
>> of the general public.
>>
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