I'm in favor of expanding this vote window to a week. I'd like to have a good read of the above linked articles and some more.
Ali B. / dmondark http://awhitebox.com On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Chris J. Davis <[email protected]>wrote: > > I am in favor of a longer timeline, but not one so absurd that it > would destroy the sense of immediacy and importance this subject > should have. So, a week is great. 2 months? Not really :) > > On Apr 15, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Sean T Evans wrote: > > > > > Chris J. Davis wrote: > >> We need to take a vote, one that is open to the community. If the > >> outcome of that vote is to move forward with incubation then we need > >> to write a proposal thingy as outlined in the How link that skippy > >> provided. > >> > >> Once we have the proposal ready we submit it to the ASF and wait for > >> them to approve us. > >> > >> So, I will call the vote. Since this is an extremely important > >> decision in the life of our community I would suggest a 36 hour > >> window > >> for voting. As with all votes the only binding votes are those of the > >> PMC, but all community members are encouraged to vote so that we (the > >> PMC) can know how you feel. Knowing this will help us make an > >> informed > >> decision. > >> > >> Do I have +1's from the PMC for opening the vote? > >> > >> On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Chris Meller wrote: > >> > >>> So we all seem to be generally in favor of incubation and unsure of > >>> the potential value of an LLC... Where do we go from here? > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Scott Merrill <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Chris Meller > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> I didn't much follow the LLC discussion, but what value would that > >>> in itself > >>>> provide? It's not as if the LLC would have a bank account filled > >>> with monies > >>>> to pull from, so someone (or multiple someones) would still end up > >>> paying > >>>> for things, even if they were under the "umbrella" of the LLC. > >>> In theory, if someone were to approach Habari saying "You stole all > >>> the code from proprietary Secret Project X", we would have a hard > >>> time > >>> defending ourselves. An LLC would, in theory, be able to better > >>> retain > >>> legal counsel and execute a defense. > >>> > >>> I'm sure there are other benefits, but the above is what I've > >>> understood to be one of the biggest. > >>> > >>>> Can someone review the conditions / qualifications / etc. for ASF > >>> incubation > >>>> again, so we're all clear on what would be required? > >>> How: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html > >>> > >>> Who: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html > >>> > >>> When: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html > >>> > >>> Entry Guides: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html > >>> > >>> I'm generally agreeable to the idea of incubation. Some small pain > >>> in > >>> transition and learning new tools would be a fair trade in exchange > >>> for being relieved of infrastructure responsibility, improved > >>> marketing capacity, and an increased sense of legitimacy in the eyes > >>> of the general public. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > I seem to recall that one of the concerns raised previously was with > > the > > release cycle rules for an incubator project. In light of A) the > > current > > time span between releases as is, and B) the loose consensus that we > > didn't handle the 0.6 one as cleanly as we'd like; I think those > > issues > > are minor. I'm willing to +1 opening a general vote, with the > > observation that, as this is a major change, I don't feel that 36 > > hours > > is sufficient. I'd like to see at least 72 hours, and preferably a > > full > > week so that everyone involved has time to do a little more research > > and > > raise any final questions. For some people, the work week doesn't > > offer > > sufficient time for this, so spanning a weekend would be favorable > > in my > > opinion. > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-users -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
