Again, I didn't mean to offend anyone or imply the worst. I'm just giving 
voice to my initial reactions as a potential user who would rather see 
things improve than simply walk away. Clearly you want it to succeed as 
well, but it helps to define and quantify what you mean by success.

Just by comparison, I belong to a forum of tablet users for a brand that is 
somewhat obscure. It now has over 2000 members and is very active, after 
just a year. That's what I envision here, times five. Instead it's 500 with 
a few posts a month. I'd also expect more than one person defending her 
honour. Perhaps even an outright flame-fest. Ha.

A few of the things that I felt were roadblocks were:

- a requirement to join a group to ask questions.
- the assumption that I was familiar with setting up and running blogs.Not 
everyone has run the Wordpress gauntlet.
- a confusing maze within the wiki which somehow made finding themes hard
- the belief that old themes would not work with new version
- the impression that few people currently support theme and plug-in dev.
- the impression that users know what github is
- github entries that give no description of what plug-in does
- no idea who the key people are since they deserve recognition
- links to sites using it appear dormant and unused
- warnings to not add themes since they would soon appear elsewhere but no 
indication when
- no sense of upfront user community spirit (I'm sure you party working on 
the back end)

Again, just my impressions. My own site is currently crap so I shouldn't 
even talk but there are good reasons for that. And yours isn't either. I 
think it just needs more of a sense of community from the non-dev side of 
things is all.



On Monday, December 31, 2012 12:57:44 PM UTC-5, ringmaster wrote:
>
> I don't see evidence that Habari is dying, or that some natural 
> selection has somehow made it too late for Habari to succeed.  Of 
> course, my own idea of success for Habari has different criteria than 
> most people's. 
>
> If there are particular shortfalls you'd like to highlight that might 
> engender adoption, this is the right place to discuss those.  I don't 
> know what shortfalls you've discovered yet, so I can't help do 
> anything about them. 
>
> If we need a separate venue for noob questions, and there's a tool we 
> can use to collect those better than what we have already, I'm anxious 
> to hear it. 
>
> As far as a hoped direction for Habari to continue in, maybe you could 
> lead the rest of us with some thoughts of your own? 
>
> Owen 
>

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