Hi Les, I agree that we lack quality user-focused documentation and that customisation can be difficult for new and less technical users. A complete renovation and refocus of the wiki would likely receive support. Is there a reason you've chosen to start a forum rather than working on the existing wiki? Easier to start with a clean slate perhaps? I'm definitely happy to talk about how we can improve or replace our documentation.
You should also know that we've tried running a separate forum in the past; it was eventually shut down, mostly due to the fact that it's difficult for the people who know stuff to effectively provide support on too many channels. See https://groups.google.com/d/topic/habari-dev/71L-3y5fxyM/discussion. On 3 January 2013 10:27, Les Henderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Early days yet but I have something online which might give some idea of > what I propose might be helpful. If the use of the logo is an issue, let me > know. It will take a fair amount of work to get it up to snuff so please be > patient. > > http://www.habarians.com/mybb/index.php > > I'm trying to do it up as a chronology, or road map, of my own experience > as a user. > > On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 3:00:44 PM UTC-5, Les Henderson wrote: >> >> I'll do what I can when time permits. I hope I can set something up that >> will take on its own momentum since, like you, I have many irons in as many >> fires. I tried to think up a good name for a forum site domain but >> apparently your group, the squatters and the Ugandans took all the good >> ones. Ha. >> >> I settled on habarians.com since the term was used here in the groups >> over the years and not much elsewhere. I'll let you know when it is set up >> with categories I think will be helpful to the average user. >> >> As for immediate suggestions I highly recommend that you add a couple >> items to the top left navigation block of the wiki to include links to >> Manual, Plugins, Theming, Installation. That alone would have saved me >> quite some time running around. >> >> >> On Monday, December 31, 2012 5:27:16 PM UTC-5, ringmaster wrote: >>> >>> Our community is oddly troll-resistant. I think they'd rather ignore it >>> than fight. And it is holiday season, after all. Apparently, I'm the >>> only one stuck at home, working. >>> >>> Habari currently falls into a weird niche, where its users need not know >>> why all the underlying code works, but they're likely to need to roll up >>> their sleeves a bit and get their hands dirty. As you've noticed, >>> Habari can be rough for someone who knows nothing about running blogs or >>> code or HTML, because it fits in that niche. It's most likely that it >>> remains there because it's difficult for its developers to step back far >>> enough to realize what they need to explain to the common person >>> installing it. >>> >>> That said, it would be lovely to have someone on the front side working >>> to discover and implement (or pass on to developers for implementation) >>> what features/services would please common end-users. >>> >>> A good portion of the issues you've described have to do with our >>> woefully incomplete addons directory, which is meant to house plugins >>> and themes. This will supplant the wiki and other listings as the >>> primary source of addons. >>> >>> I'm happy to work with someone who is interested in enhancing Habari's >>> user-facing image, though my time is primarily spent in the coding >>> trenches, building Habari and using it for paying client work. If you >>> had some immediate action items that you think we could execute on to >>> hopefully increase novice user adoption, I'll help as I can, and I'm >>> sure other people would, too. >>> >>> Owen >>> >>> -- > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/habari-users > -- Michael C. Harris http://twofishcreative.com/michael/blog IRC: michaeltwofish #habari -- To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/habari-users
