On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Oron Peled wrote: > Just adjusting some over-optimism: installation is very I/O bounded, and > disk speed is advancing very slow (comparing to Moore's law for CPU).
I assume that we will see more HDs with ATA-133MHz and SATA (150MHz). I have no idea how many people will use SCSI. I hope we'll see more people with smarter cache (for instance, less IO bounds, and more use of real cache, swapping big chunks with less transactions. Assuming the person has a lot of RAM installed. And I believe that we can assume that we'll see more people with minimum of 256/512MB DDRs installed). But hey, I'm allowed to assume :) I do get a bit too optimistic there. > Still, I completely agree that the ~5GB full install is a wise decision in > the context of install parties to newbies who would have hard time > adding software. Worse, the typical newbie would assume that > if some 'Z' software isn't on her system -- than Linux doesn't have 'Z' > at all (actually, if an icon for 'Z' isn't on the menu than Linux doesn't > have 'Z' software :-) Sounds like a very bad comparison, but we should give him what he would get with his other OS machine (let us assume legally, but that's not the issue now), the least. And ofcourse, we should give him much more, like always. We don't want the person to say that "it wasn't there (in the Linux installation), so it doesn't exist", or, "it wasn't there, because they didn't know how to install it for me/ too complex to install", just because we wanted to minimize the installation time - would give us an own gall. We should keep on some balance (like always). If you didn't get it - I agree with your words, just made the reasons more clear. :) > > So keep it that way, and it'll keep taking ~1hour/install... will do our best ;) > > -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Adir Abraham Technion's Advisors Group and Public PC Farms Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Haifa, Israel ICQ# 1841481 Cel# +972-53-243438, +972-55-481245 KeyID: 0xD8DC85C7 Fingerprint: 138D 8F41 7A06 44A0 3DBB 9DC3 FE8B 2658 ____________________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> mQEPAzLax/sAAAEIAK2bI8utornDYd5LdU+/TABNmqXneiXuLx4j8OKD2GjfS/O8 E6nrX69ot4uU5ryjp5h+7VHBZqCQz+8VC8ly2ANtycejAc82gllVC96fbA+Y6uuN uI9aXkwNqhphmmQZIVaOZDRAo9//1zX9r41xY+8rKSQuNcp+FPD/A5Itng0xhsfS KkCV4tT0mGpiydUHFrugk/bouXPYwUHXSnHp/mPdGsjgqipezHPzCWIn3xcJjk2/ tjd5/ym+arWpKW5nvTuvalcMi2DIcEilSrT5NLwgeuh3eqitYOc9WTiMNMvUiVcP sucJkdxNwjEX9MgD/bLY9wT/13brqxk71tjchccAEQEAAbQnQWRpciBBYnJhaGFt IDxhZGlyQHZpcGUudGVjaG5pb24uYWMuaWw+iQEVAwUQMtrH+6sZO9bY3IXHAQGb 0gf9FwrJBKaTP0yvf3+vwtB+9ftS0woz1TawJwflC5EoHJs7D/5GzkAaRV82RSkH P9fSHmM+LUB0huBBK1qtNyXHWIjQTmYwFYC8Oen4q0Fyze7cloSnpD1rVjI0HoCO UU8bbz0Iseizdjhnl2PTItQ+dkKzLcww1jW5iPXOWd1o8/8s2aebhrpDRO8BfAYg H29jhmDtuVQDPgFfkN/kP+xpHQplMN5Qh1oP22f+Wyg8sVvSv8P7cM+88u46FHi3 zvHpVnZKIBtKhksnH1PYXtz7FvS7vA+MbpM47kgmQGL5Ygig0pUUbBCGlzmg2Hvd 262YCdVYNwpIjQWBLJI8orea0Q== =dgNP -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
