2008/11/21 Truong Anh. Tuan <tatuan at gmail.com> > To H?ng: th?c ra "ph?n bi?n" m? l?m g?, m? th?c s? T c?ng kh?ng c? kh? n?ng > ?? ?? ph?n bi?n ? m?c n?y (kh?ng bi?t l? do g? ch?nh). Th?c t? s? tr? l?i > th?i. > T tin r?ng "T?y" ?? ?i nh? th? n?o th? kh?ng th? sai qu? l?n ???c. Vi?c > ?i?u ch?nh cho ph? h?p v?i ?i?u ki?n th?c t? VN ch? c? th? l? nh?ng ?i?u > ch?nh nh?, ch? kh?ng th? thay ??i ho?n to?n ph??ng ph?p. > > Anyway, (To c? b?c Ngh?a v? m?i ng??i), tranh lu?n ?i?u n?y m? l?m g?. Ho?n > to?n c? th? chia HanoiLUG (v? c? c?ng ??ng FOSS n?i chung ? VN) th?nh 2 > nh?m, ?i t? d??i l?n v? ?i t? tr?n xu?ng. Hai c?ch ti?p c?n ??u h??ng v? 1 > m?c ti?u: ??a FOSS v?o s? d?ng r?ng r?i ? VN ?? "ti?t ki?m" ti?n c?a cho > ch?nh VN. > Ch?nh v? th? m?nh mu?n ?i ki?u "Tr?n xu?ng, d??i l?n, hai b?n ?p v?o" th? may ra t?t c? ??u c? c?a s?ng.
> > T r?t t?m ??c v?i ? m? ?/c Balthas ng??i ??c nh?c l?i trong FOSS-Bridge v?a > r?i (T nghe l?n th?... r?i :), r?ng ti?n c?a VN n?n chi cho d?ch v? ???c > cung ?ng b?i ng??i VN (t?ng trao ??i th??ng m?i trong n??c) thay v? mua > license c?a "T?y" (t?ng nh?p si?u :). > Ch?nh x?c, n?u d?ng FOSS, 20 tri?u USD mua Office s? ???c gi? l?i cho c?c c?ng ty VN ?? m? l?m d?ch v? FOSS v?/ho?c x?y d?ng c?c ph?n m?m ?ng d?ng nghi?p v?, ch? kh?ng ph?i nh? b?y gi?. > > > Kind regards, > Tuan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ngh?a L? Trung" <letrungnghia.foss at gmail.com> > To: "Hanoi Linux Users Group" <hanoilug at lists.hanoilug.org> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:41:17 AM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, > Jakarta > Subject: Re: [HanoiLUG] FOSS Document for Ministry of Education and > Training > > > > 2008/11/21 Nguyen Vu Hung <vuhung16plus at gmail.com> > >> 2008/11/21 Truong Anh. Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com>: >> > Ch?o c?c b?c v? c?c b?n, >> > >> > M?i ng??i n?i nhi?u v? vi?c h? tr? m?c ng??i d?ng (chuy?n sang d?ng OOo >> v? >> > FOSS) qu?! >> > >> > Em share l?i c?i "Gentle migration" trong quy?n SMEGuide n?y ?? kh?i b? >> > "qu?n" m?t ph??ng ph?p em cho l? r?t h?p l?: >> > >> http://smeguide.conecta.it/index.php/5._Best_practices_for_FLOSS_adoption >> > H?y ngh? ??n vi?c chuy?n ??i c?c d?ch v? n?n sang FOSS, chuy?n ??i >> Desktops >> > v? End-user apps ch? l? b??c cu?i c?ng. >> > >> >> > POST RULES : http://wiki.hanoilug.org/hanoilug:mailing_list_guidelines >> No postign post please :) >> >> B?n Tu?n Anh th? ph?n t?ch xem kh?i ni?m "gentle migration" khi ?p >> d?ng v?o VN s? ph?i/n?n >> thay ??i ra sao cho ph? h?p v?i t?nh h?nh th?c t?. >> >> ??a FOSS v?o h?nh ch?nh l? c? m?t c?ng vi?c l?n. >> Vi?c ??a nh?ng ti?n t?ch nh? nh? unikey, xvnkb l?m s? d?ng ch? l? ti?n >> ?? cho vi?c ??a >> FOSS v?o s? d?ng ? di?n r?ng. >> >> C? th? b?t ??u t? h? ?i?u h?nh hay Office: ??y l? 2 c?ch ti?p c?n >> ch?nh ???c b?n b?c g?n ??y. >> Vi?c ??a FOSS v?o h?nh ch?nh ph?i kh?ng ???c g?y ?? v?. >> V? v?y b?t ??u t? h? ?i?u h?nh( Linux, BSD) l? ?i?u kh?ng n?n l?m. > > ??ng nh? v?y. Hi?n t?i m?i ng??i ??u mu?n ?i theo 2 b??c tr?n Client side. > B??c 1: FOSS tr?n Windows, bao g?m OOo, Firefox, Thunderbird v? Unikey. B??c > 2: Only FOSS: chuy?n ? m?c h? ?i?u h?nh. V?i c?c b? kh?c, b??c 2 th?c s? > kh?, nh?ng v?i B? GDDT, ?? tri?n khai ? c?c tr??ng h?c th? b??c 2 n?y l? OK, > ??c bi?t trong c?c tr??ng ph? th?ng. > Tr?n Server side th? d? h?n, ??c bi?t v?i c?c t?nh, v? nh?n chung kh?ng c? > nhi?u ?ng d?ng ? ?? v? tr?n Server side li?n quan nhi?u t?i ch?nh d?n CNTT > ?? ???c ??o t?o t? c?c tr??ng ??i h?c theo chuy?n ng?nh CNTT ra, ch? kh?ng > ph?i ng??i s? d?ng th?ng th??ng nh? ? Client side. > nghialt > >> >> Thay ??i HDH s? g?y ra s? thay ??i t?t c? nh?ng apps ch?y tr?n n?. M? >> Linux ch?a s?n s?ng. >> >> ??a OOo v?o thay MSO d? h?n, v? ?ang l?m ? m?c th? nghi?m( di?n r?ng!) >> trong b? KHCN( v? B? GD). >> Ng??i d?ng lu?n c? th? quay l?i v?i MSO n?u h? kh?ng th?ch hay c? v?n >> ?? v?i OOo. An to?n h?n kh?ng? >> >> T?m t?i l? "gentle migration" kh?ng h?p v?i VN hi?n t?i tr? khi b?n c? >> ph?n bi?n :) >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> Nguyen Hung Vu ( Nguy?n V? H?ng ) >> vuhung16plus{[email protected]<vuhung16plus%7Bremove%7D at >> gmail.dot.com>, YIM: vuhung16 , Skype: vuhung16dg >> A brief profile: >> http://www.hn.is.uec.ac.jp/~vuhung/Nguyen.Vu.Hung.html<http://www.hn.is.uec.ac.jp/%7Evuhung/Nguyen.Vu.Hung.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> POST RULES : http://wiki.hanoilug.org/hanoilug:mailing_list_guidelines >> _______________________________________________ >> HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/ >> HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ >> HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ POST RULES : > http://wiki.hanoilug.org/hanoilug:mailing_list_guidelines_______________________________________________ > HanoiLUG mailing lists: > http://lists.hanoilug.org/ HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/HanoiLUG > blog: > http://blog.hanoilug.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > POST RULES : http://wiki.hanoilug.org/hanoilug:mailing_list_guidelines > _______________________________________________ > HanoiLUG mailing lists: http://lists.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG wiki: http://wiki.hanoilug.org/ > HanoiLUG blog: http://blog.hanoilug.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hanoilug.org/pipermail/hanoilug/attachments/20081121/25063bf4/attachment-0001.htm
