Can you clarify this further?

I see that file 2005 (IMAGE file) contains information
about the image.  But how is this linked to a TIU
note, or does it have to be?

Kevin


--- Cameron Schlehuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> The whole Imaging GUI is far more sophistication
> than is required.  The key
> parts to having a relatively simple substitute for
> simple document images is
> to be able to scan and post the IDs and location of
> the image to the IMAGE
> file 2005 and post the IEN for the entry to the
> pointers in the respective
> packages, such as with a TIU note.  Then recover the
> IEN when desiring the
> image in its context and retrieving the relevant
> information from file 2005.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] TIU Interface for
> Document Scanning
> 
> If we can use document imaging without running afoul
> of the FDA, isn't this ability already present? 
> Wouldn't it just require installing the system?  I
> guess we would have to find a way to replace the
> propriatary componants with open source ones.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to work on an open source, free
> scanning
> > solution to work with 
> > VistA-Office and VistA in general.  The impending
> > release of VistA-Office 
> > makes the need for it urgent.
> > 
> > I am thinking about something that would make
> broker
> > calls to get the patient 
> > list to help populate a form that includes the
> > author, reference date, 
> > patient, title, and visit (fields .01,
> .02,.03,1202,
> > and 1301 in file 8925) 
> > which are the minimum required to define a TIU
> > document according to an 
> > expert I have been pestering.  When there is no
> real
> > visit for a note, an 
> > event-type visit  (historical event) is used for
> it.
> >  For such visits, 
> > workload is not counted (for VA), which makes it
> > less desireable for them, 
> > but I think of little consequence for VistA users
> > outside of the VA.
> > 
> > I think the images can be stored in a web server
> > type environment with 
> > Gallery, and open source program.  I think the
> > solution should remain largely 
> > outside of CPRS and VistA to avoid problems with
> > patching, etc., especially 
> > with a revamped version of CPRS on the way and
> what
> > sounds like other 
> > replacements for CPRS already out there.
> > 
> > Some of the M routines from VistA imaging have got
> > to be involved in 
> > delivering documents to the TIU for display in
> CPRS.
> >  Can someone please 
> > point me at those routines?  I have spoken with
> > someone at the FDA again and 
> > I am confident we can use some of the code in
> those
> > routines without adverse 
> > consequences if our use is only for document
> > scanning and not diagnostic work 
> > and it remains free of charge.  
> > 
> > I think if I can pull enough information together,
> I
> > can probably get the 
> > folks that have offered to help enough information
> > to get them started.  The 
> > solution needs to be cross platform, so Python or
> > something else would work 
> > fine for the interface I would think.  
> > 
> > We should be able to do something that is twain
> > compliant so scanners that 
> > have drivers for the operating system being used
> at
> > the time ought to work. 
> > 
> > It is likely that there will be one place in a
> > doctor's office where most of 
> > the scanning is done, so this can be a stand alone
> > application except for the 
> > part where it needs to deliver the info to CPRS
> and
> > TIU about where the image 
> > is so it can pop up a crossplatform open source
> > browser to view it.  I do not 
> > feel that popup need be within CPRS. In fact, it
> > would probably be best if it 
> > did not happen inside CPRS. 
> > 
> > This is a lot to digest and I am open for
> criticism,
> > information and different 
> > points of view, so bring it on. 
> > -- 
> > Nancy Anthracite
> > 
> > 
> >
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